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Post by dnic on Sept 14, 2021 18:01:10 GMT -6
Bummer Ed. Sorry to hear things are not going well.ut like you said leave it be and maybe later mess with it some more. Or just take a blow torch to it and TruOil the result and call it The Raw Series.
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Post by antares on Sept 15, 2021 2:02:31 GMT -6
I feel for ya Eddie- that hurts! I have projects like that too but you've trumped your setbacks every time before. I suspect that your current fired-up state of mind with multiple projects means that it's too much to deal with in the scheme of things. Dane's right- lay it away to one side and come back to it. There's too much invested to throw it all out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2021 10:06:12 GMT -6
I don't know how I did but the fail is about the other guitar I am building. I posted this on the wrong post! LO
this is the build that has failed.EB
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Post by antares on Sept 16, 2021 10:52:18 GMT -6
Ah I see it now. I forgot about the finish you were aiming for Eddie. I still say come back to it later though. I may be getting crossed wires, but I vaguely recall Dane having a slight set back with The Skull at one stage?
Nice foot by the way!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 13:47:10 GMT -6
Ah I see it now. I forgot about the finish you were aiming for Eddie. I still say come back to it later though. I may be getting crossed wires, but I vaguely recall Dane having a slight set back with The Skull at one stage? Nice foot by the way! e&oe ...I try hard not to get my feet in the way of the photos. But sometimes one get in there! LOL!
I was talking to my son about this project. Yep I am going to let it rest for now. What I might do is buy me a heat gun and strip this all the way back to the wood and start all over it. I have enough martial to go again. So, right now I think that would be the best way to go. There is to many flaws in to correct it and make it look right.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 13:56:15 GMT -6
did some experimenting today with the new saw blade on the band saw. Everything checked out fine. The weather is back to the way was, hot and humid. Rained all day yesterday. Rained part of the day today.
But here is what I have in the plans for the neck. I am going to cut some wood up to make a strip for the center of the neck. There will be a mahogany stripe for the center with some of that Red color wood (I forget what it is called) The will go along side the stripe. Then the birds eye maple will be on the outside of that.
I will start with the center stripe first. Then if that comes out good then I'll cut the neck blank in half and glue the center of the neck into place.
I was going to do this today. But, I got to feeling pretty bad so I came in. I hope things will be better tomorrow.
EB
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Post by dnic on Sept 16, 2021 18:19:13 GMT -6
Yes Steve, my first go around with gluing the fabric on the Skull I used epoxy. Which would have been fine in a vacuum press but has no grab as a glue. When I tried the second time I did it exactly as recommended by Texas toast Guitars. I used wood glue to glue the fabric down down and then used Simtech sealer to build it smooth over the fabric. That's why when Eddie started talking epoxy I was warning about epoxy not being the best choice. I know Big D has used epoxy with a dam around it but it gets very thick and it seems like a lot of extra work.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 12:36:15 GMT -6
Got some cutting, resawing and so on done today.
here I go. I decided to go ahead and put some stripping in the middle of the neck. Here are the woods cut and ready to be glued.
I split this to show you all how well my band saw is cutting. This wood has not bee sanded or trued up yet. This is all band saw. I took some measurements and the wood is exactly the same measurements. Same thicknesses on all boards. The new blade does not drift at all. This little 9" band saw is a work horse! That new blade also cuts the wood fast and easy.
I still would like to then down the two thinner woods some more. But I haven't decided just yet how I want to do that.
someone once said to me, "if your going to make a neck why make it boring?" I have tried to fallow that with all the necks I make.
OK, If you can't tell, I am excited over my band saw. I has someone just the other day tell me he won't buy anything from Harbor Freight because the tools they sell are junk. Well, most of the tools I have came from there. So far I have not had any issues out of the tools I bought. I could not run out and buy super nice power tools. When I bought the tools that I did, I bought them knowing they may not last a life time. I know what they are and how to fine tune them to make the, a little better. I bought what I could afford, so that I can do my hobby.
I am still looking for a thickness sander or planer. I don't know where I'll put once I get one. LOL!
Yep, I didn't do any videos on this part. I am trying to come up with a way that my iPhone can show what I am doing so that I don't have to hold it or keep on moving it around. So it will be a while before I go back to making videos.
I had to stop working once again. Do to my health problems and the heat and it being so humid. Tomorrow I hope to get the neck blank glued up. I also hop to get the body blank glued up as well. Since the Mahogany was rough cut so I have to figure out how to make it flat. Thinking of making a jig for my router so I can even things out some before gluing. Man I miss my thickness sander and planer! I have seen others on You Tube make a sled/jig to thickness out wood. I may give that a try.
Well, this build is on it's way. Hope, things will go smooth on the one. It will be tung oiled finished. Some interesting things coming up. Like I have to figure out a good way of mounting the leather top to the wood. I have some good ideas on how or what I want to do, so stay tuned in to find up what I''m up to. ( what's he doing up there?) LOL!
EB
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Post by dnic on Sept 17, 2021 19:04:12 GMT -6
It's always fun to start new builds. It's also fun to figure out how to get things done with minimal tools or design and build jigs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 10:52:22 GMT -6
It's always fun to start new builds. It's also fun to figure out how to get things done with minimal tools or design and build jigs. yep on the minimal tools. When I first started out I had no wood working tools at all. The first body I did was done with a jig saw and a borrowed router. I never even used a router until that first body. I had to even go buy me drill bits because I didn't have any the right size. But I did pull it off. I think it was a year later I started making necks. Again I had little to nothing to work with. My first neck was made from a lot of sanding. I glues sandpaper on the top of my table saw (I had gotten for free and was not working) I sanded everything back then by hand. But I pulled it off.
Most of the tools I had gotten later on were gifts or I bought them used and had to fix them. But I ended up with some nice tools. It hard to go back and start over. But at the same time it is fun. I am no big hurry to get anything done these days. I would like it to stay that way. It's about trying to things as simple as I can and not cost a lot. I am on a fixed income. Plus wil my health I can't work as hard as I use to.
As far as jigs and things, I find that is part of guitar making that makes it fun. I like to figure out how to make jigs to help out with things. Some times it works and some times it don't. But it's all part of it.
Once the neck blank is done, everything on this build should be pretty straight forward. Other than mounting the leather onto the top. I am also going to put binding on the fret board. I don't know if I'll do any fret marker inlay or not. Thinking of keep the fret board clean of any markers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 16:19:55 GMT -6
Ok I did this video.
O got the neck blank all glued up. I'll post a picture of it later on. I also got the body blanks cut. going to wait until I can get them smooth before gluing them together. I'll need to go to the hardware store for some wood and things to make the sled I nee fore my router. I hope it will work out. EB
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Post by dnic on Sept 18, 2021 19:49:18 GMT -6
I agree with you and me both, Eddie. A big part of the appeal is the problem solving and making things work. And if possible using what’s on hand. Otherwise we could go to work for Taylor or Fender and build the same part over and over again. Or program a computer.
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Post by dnic on Sept 18, 2021 19:56:29 GMT -6
Ok I did this video.
O got the neck blank all glued up. I'll post a picture of it later on. I also got the body blanks cut. going to wait until I can get them smooth before gluing them together. I'll need to go to the hardware store for some wood and things to make the sled I nee fore my router. I hope it will work out. EB
I totally agree. If my buddy Jack the Mando builder hadn't given me the drum sander I would have had to make something to get things flat. There's this guy named Anthony Platts at 4th Street guitars. He builds really beautiful guitars and he uses a router sled on everyone of them. Haven't seen a planer or a sander yet. Check out his his YT channel, he has a killer dry wit.
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Post by antares on Sept 19, 2021 2:56:43 GMT -6
A router is an extremely versatile tool that can do pretty much anything given the will and application. I have a cheap plunge action router here which has never been used largely because it takes 1/4" bits and the ones at work took 1/2" bits so there was never a ready supply for me. Putting it another way, if I needed to rout something out, I would do it at work. Those days have long gone! I suppose I could buy some bits for my router, but it was so cheap that I suspect the quality of it's bearings. I do little things with my Dremel 3000 with its plunge router attachment.
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Post by dnic on Sept 19, 2021 7:26:16 GMT -6
A router is an extremely versatile tool that can do pretty much anything given the will and application. I have a cheap plunge action router here which has never been used largely because it takes 1/4" bits and the ones at work took 1/2" bits so there was never a ready supply for me. Putting it another way, if I needed to rout something out, I would do it at work. Those days have long gone! I suppose I could buy some bits for my router, but it was so cheap that I suspect the quality of it's bearings. I do little things with my Dremel 3000 with its plunge router attachment. e&oe ...I have a Dremel that has very loose bearings. Way to loose to do inlay work with. But my routers have held up fairly well. One set of bearing in a very old Porter Cable. 1/4" bits do feel a little limp once you use 1/2" but you should give it a go next time the need arises. What brand router just for giggles?
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