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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2021 13:53:19 GMT -6
Here is another one in making the fret board.
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Post by dnic on Sept 12, 2021 7:25:24 GMT -6
I have a 12" craftsman bandsaw. I used to really have to go slow with for resawing. Fresh blades make a huge difference.
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Post by dnic on Sept 12, 2021 7:31:52 GMT -6
The jigs make is quick and easy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 10:46:37 GMT -6
I have a 12" craftsman bandsaw. I used to really have to go slow with for resawing. Fresh blades make a huge difference. I use to have one of them... Yes I found that even on the Craftsman I would change out the blade when doing a resaw. The new blade I put on has a lot more teeth per inch. I cuts super clean and does not drift as bad as the original blade did. Been looking at the bigger band saws. But I don't have any room for one. I passed on a 14" band saw for $175.00 the guy is retiring form wood working and wants to get rid of everything. I missed out on the thickness paler he had. But, I am thinking of getting me one of the fold up table saws. That way I could fold it up and slid it against the wall.
Man, do I hate it when a saw blade brakes! Scares me ever time.
EB
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Post by antares on Sept 12, 2021 13:16:14 GMT -6
Eddie you're working wonders with the constraints of that tiny "shop". Bravo!
I used to approach the bandsaw with trepidation, but that was because I never committed to memory how to repair the blade if I should break it, and I was too embarrassed to ask someone to do it for me! There was a tiny grinding wheel on the saw which was used to prepare the blade for welding and to flush off the weld afterwards. The weld was an electric spot weld type performed "end to end". My achilles heel was the annealing part. Furthermore, you couldn't replace the blade without cutting it or breaking it, a bit like you can't get a chain off a push bike unless you remove a pin on the contiguous chains or the "circlip" on the other type.
I've watched folks using band saws in YouTube clips and they rarely if ever seem to lower the guide foot. I always lowered the foot as far as I could. I see folks cutting out a solid guitar body with up to maybe 12" of free running blade. Makes no sense to me at all, but judging by their success rate I guess it's just old heavy handed me. You did say let the blade do the work Eddie, and Dane has cut ultra mega sharp chamfers like on a gut-cut successfully so yup- it's all skill. I'd still lower that foot wherever possible though to reduce the chance of breaks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 13:47:59 GMT -6
Eddie you're working wonders with the constraints of that tiny "shop". Bravo! I used to approach the bandsaw with trepidation, but that was because I never committed to memory how to repair the blade if I should break it, and I was too embarrassed to ask someone to do it for me! There was a tiny grinding wheel on the saw which was used to prepare the blade for welding and to flush off the weld afterwards. The weld was an electric spot weld type performed "end to end". My achilles heel was the annealing part. Furthermore, you couldn't replace the blade without cutting it or breaking it, a bit like you can't get a chain off a push bike unless you remove a pin on the contiguous chains or the "circlip" on the other type. I've watched folks using band saws in YouTube clips and they rarely if ever seem to lower the guide foot. I always lowered the foot as far as I could. I see folks cutting out a solid guitar body with up to maybe 12" of free running blade. Makes no sense to me at all, but judging by their success rate I guess it's just old heavy handed me. You did say let the blade do the work Eddie, and Dane has cut ultra mega sharp chamfers like on a gut-cut successfully so yup- it's all skill. I'd still lower that foot wherever possible though to reduce the chance of breaks. e&oe ...I like to be safe. I cut my fingers real bad one time for not being safe. Not a fun thing to go through. Lowering the guide on the band saw keeps your finger safer than letting it stay up. Less blade to hurt you. One thing I don't like about resawing. There is a lot of blade showing, and anything can happen at any time.
Yes I remember a long while back using a metal band saw, if the blade broke we had this jig/tool for repairing the blade. I never like doing that, but it did seem to work OK.
On the band saws, I have broken a few blades. Lot of times it was from me forcing the wood to cut and over heating the blade. This one broke because it was dull and started to stick and I pulled on it to hard. It was off camera so no one will get to see how much I jumped back when it broke. LOL! I still think this band saw does a pretty good job for it's size.
Yes I wanted to show people my tools/shop to show that one does not need to go out and spend a lot of money to do this hobby. I so enjoy working with what I have. But I do miss all of the higher end tool I once had. I do wish I had a thickness sander. But I'll have to go back to when I first started out, and do it by hand.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 13:55:50 GMT -6
Eddie -- I've repaired a number of old-time Fender full-range pickups. When you get the chance, can you take your meter and tell me what the resistance is on that new one? Interested in how close they are to the old ones. Thanks, John Sure thing! EB
John, I went to measure the resistance. My meter took a dump on me. I have to buy me a new one. I had it my tool box in my outside storage and It must have gotten some moisture in it and messed up the display on it. So it's unreadable. It was not a cheap one. I did try replacing the batteries, but that didn't work. So, I'll be looking for a new one. EB
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Post by dnic on Sept 12, 2021 14:39:33 GMT -6
Eddie, more teeth on the blade gives you a cleaner cut. But slower and harder on the saw. For resaw I use less teeth. About three per inch. It's very aggressive and you get less out of the blank but like on your maple fretboard you just split it anyway so lots of room to clean a more aggressive cut.
Steve, Eddie hit the nail on the head. You do get more blade movement with the guide bar up but my biggest reason to keep the bar down is, if you've got a lot of blade showing you could easily slip and lob your arm off. Same reason I only raise my table saw blade a little above the wood.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2021 10:45:22 GMT -6
Eddie, more teeth on the blade gives you a cleaner cut. But slower and harder on the saw. For resaw I use less teeth. About three per inch. It's very aggressive and you get less out of the blank but like on your maple fretboard you just split it anyway so lots of room to clean a more aggressive cut. Steve, Eddie hit the nail on the head. You do get more blade movement with the guide bar up but my biggest reason to keep the bar down is, if you've got a lot of blade showing you could easily slip and lob your arm off. Same reason I only raise my table saw blade a little above the wood. Yes, I have heard that about less teeth on the blades. But when I put this new one on, I didn't get any drift from it like I was getting from the other blade. It cuts fast and smooth. I was surprised at how well it cut.
The other problem is finding blades for this Band Saw. There is not to much of a selection of blades for it like my old bad saw had. Do you know where I could look for band saw blades Dane? I have been trying to find them but all I keep getting is eBay and Amazon and they don't have much in the blades I need. Is there a place to get them other than form there?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2021 10:54:04 GMT -6
John, I went to measure the resistance. My meter took a dump on me. I have to buy me a new one. I had it my tool box in my outside storage and It must have gotten some moisture in it and messed up the display on it. So it's unreadable. It was not a cheap one. I did try replacing the batteries, but that didn't work. So, I'll be looking for a new one. EB
John, I did look up the specs for this Pickup. It says on line that it is around 8.5 or 9.3 depending on neck or bridge. I have the bridge pickup. The original ones were around 10.0 +. I guess the originals had different kind of metal as pole pieces in them. The repops like the one I got is not made anything like the originals as far as I can find, Other than looks. But I have used them before and in the past they sound pretty good to me. The Originals are way out of reach for me price wise. Be OK I guess If I was restoring an old 72 or so guitars with these pickups in them. Maybe then I could see spending the money on them. EB
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2021 11:39:43 GMT -6
Man! when it comes to pickups these days there are so many to chose form. So many ways to wire them up. Been doing some reading on the wide range pickups. So many ways they are being used. Looks like form what I could find the original guitar form the 70's had one meg pots on them. The modern guitars most come with 250k pots. Depending who made the guitar the tone cap also changes.
I am going to use volume pot for each of the pickups going into this build. So I think I'll start off with a 500k pot of the wide range, and a 250k for the Tele neck pickup. This guitar wont have any tone control on it. I hope the wide range pickup will sound good without the tone control. I don't see any reason that it shouldn't.
If there is one thing I have learned in building guitars is that, there are so many ways to make them sound off and to get the sound you want out of any guitar just by changing out pickups, pot,s and so on.
For me I have been extremely happy with the way all my guitars sound. Part of the fun in building is trying something out and hearing how it comes out. There have been times I wish I would have gotten into making pickups. But, that would be another time consuming thing for me to do. I could just see myself waking up at night saying " what if" then getting up and trying out an idea I had. LOL! Yep I could see me buried in wire. HA!
So, I let others do that for me... EB
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Post by antares on Sept 13, 2021 13:50:14 GMT -6
Winding pickups would indeed be a rabbit trail Eddie.
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Post by dnic on Sept 13, 2021 21:46:28 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 11:02:06 GMT -6
Thanks Dane! I'll look and see if they have the size I need. EB
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 12:56:59 GMT -6
Well, I don't know how to say this but I am calling this build a fail. After letting the clear dry for a few days, it's not looking all that well.
whole lot of flaws are in the finish that I did not see before putting on the clear. Of course all of the flaws are on the top. the back of the guitar looks fine. At this moment I don't have it in me to sand off the finish and start all over again. This build has given me problems since I started it.
So, I think I am going to save the parts for another build later on. Live and learn. This is the first in a long time I have given up on a build. But I can't put it together. It's not anywhere close to my standards and I don't want my name on it. I may at a later date get it out and sand it down and redo the finish. But not now.
Sorry all! That is the way things go sometimes.
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