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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2009 11:54:08 GMT -6
Hey I thought I would open a new thread on body stiles. I am already thinking of my next build. I was going to do an ES335 neck through but after seeing these builds I may change my mind. So what kind of body stiles do you all like? If you could buy or build the one you want what would that be if money was no object? Please show me some pictures. I need input!!!!
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Post by donovan on Dec 1, 2009 16:30:03 GMT -6
Eddie, well I have to say that I really like a double cut guitar. I mean I just need that freedom over the fretboard that a Les Paul doesn't really offer me. I mean I have a gorgeous vintage Les Paul in my possession right now and although it has great tone and clarity I just feel more comfortable with a strat or something with a double cut. I like a double-cut Les Paul like this: I mean you already know what a strat looks like obviously but I also like a PRS style and I would love to have one of those double-cuts. I love an SG too or even a Flying V. The problem with an SG is though is that they are so darn heavy and that's why I don't want one. If you could find a way to lighten it up then that would be pretty sweet!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2009 17:08:33 GMT -6
Yes I really like the guitars you have shown as well. I have though a bout the SG. I was thinking of redesigning it little. I think it would make a good neck through guitar stile. I feel it would be better than a set neck SG. But if I were to do that with a neck through I think I would chamber the body. The two teles I have done with the closed chamber (no F holes) have a real cool tone about them. I would be willing to bet that the SG stile would be the same way. It would be lighter and have a real good tone about it. But the SG had been running around in my mind as well as others. The SG is one guitar I have never owned. So there may be one in the future.
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Post by donovan on Dec 1, 2009 19:26:52 GMT -6
For the longest time I wanted an SG but I think it would be really killer if you built one. With your skills you could really put out a new swing on this that would be awesome!
A chambered body would give it some sweet big sounds. You will lose some sustain with chambering it but perhaps a lighter wood is just in order. I'm not sure which would reduce the sustain more, a lighter wood or chamebering the body of a denser wood?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2009 20:46:30 GMT -6
The neck through would take care of the sustain.
I always ask the question how long do you want it to sustain? I have been playing guitar for a vary long time I have played all kinds of music played all kind of concerts and played all kinds of guitars and I have to say everything thing in music I have done all the guitars I ever played always had enough sustain with or without pedals. Real sustain to me is checked by leaving your guitar unplugged strike a note and see how long the note last. To many times some think the sustain is to play through some kind of distortion and letting the note carry. What they are really getting is feed back or a sound loop not sustain.
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Post by donovan on Dec 1, 2009 20:51:59 GMT -6
That's true too. I think when rock guitarists or even somebody like Joe Bonamassa play they are looking for enough sustain to pick up that decaying harmonic that songs wouldn't be right without!
I mean I never need a whole ton of sustain, you are correct in saying that but still, I want to have that maximum amount that I can if I really need it or if I am playing any slide guitar from time to time.
That's why people like Derek Trucks and Gary Rossington use a SG's is to get that sustain when playing slide.
I guess that's just my opinion!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2009 21:42:48 GMT -6
My last two Teles will sustain as long as the SG or Less Paul and both are chambered and have bolt on necks. A lot of what the artiest use that you have mentioned do play through sound effects and in most cases the effects will help to sustain a note and some even have a sustain-er effects and a signal boost some are built in to the guitar itself. But that is not true sustain.
I had everything back in the day you can think of. The big amps (why) because I was young and thought it all looked so cool. But I guess it's all OK if that is what people like. But I truly think that on the most part all guitars are great. I can't think of one I haven't played on. I really don't have any I dislike even some of the real less expensive ones. I have played on guitars worth more that I care to guess as well and in some cases they to me didn't play or sound or sustain any better than any others. The only thing coast wise they had were the name.
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Post by hoz on Dec 1, 2009 21:54:28 GMT -6
I'm like you on the sustain test. I never bought a guitar plugged into an amp. I've always played electrics dry, no amps in the shop. It would be different if I lugged my personnal amp down to the store! This always worked for me, and sure enough when I got the guitar home, it sounded great through my rig.
I own 3 sg's. Dry, my old Strat out sustians them all. But in front of a half stack the SG's sing forever. Mahogony is a light wood. I think those guitars just vibrate enough to sustain without feedback in front of the amps.
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Post by dnic on Dec 1, 2009 23:51:37 GMT -6
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Post by donovan on Dec 2, 2009 5:57:32 GMT -6
You know Dane that Jonah body style reminds me of an old Bison Burns guitars or that second one, even of like a retro Danelectro Guitar.
Very impressive though! I love double-cuts and those are some really really sharp guitars! I haven't seen you post those before and I like them a lot!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 9:16:50 GMT -6
I like double cut a way's too. The body I am doing on paper is a double cut stile. But everything I come up with so far looks to close to what has been done. So now I have one I want to draw out that has a top on it that the shape of the top will be somewhat different than the main body. I might even make the top where it screws on. Still working out the bugs on that idea.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 12:08:34 GMT -6
Dane, I really like the green on you did. No pick guard vary clean looking. My copper-T is the second guitar I have done with a pick guard. I really like the clean looks of guitars with vary little to detract form the guitar itself. Not that I don't like your other ones because you know I think there all cool! And you are a vary good builder.
Again I would like to thank Dane and all the others that have helped me out over the few years I have been on Guitar Attack! Your all a bunch of great People!
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Post by niels on Dec 2, 2009 13:47:40 GMT -6
Hey,
I like Telecaster thinlines quite a lot also If I would have the money i'd buy a prs I think. Or a SG I pretty much like the look of it but if you build a SG you should paint it a color that's never been done before. Yellow or orange something like that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 14:50:04 GMT -6
I am really liking the guitar I posted that's on top. LP looking one with the burst. Still can't quit get my head around the SG. But I would like to do one like I said as neck through. I never like the neck join of an SG. I am surprised that there aren't more of them broken. But I'm still in the thinking stages. Most of the time before I do a build (I know this will sound funny) But I buy the wood I let it set in the house for a few months to where I can see it all the time then one day I look at it and I know what kind of guitar it needs to be. Sounds wired I know but that is how I build so far. So now I'm down to my last of my wood for a body. Walnut. I don't want to wast it on a guitar that it's not suppose to be. So that is why I posed this thread to see if I can trigger some thoughts on what to do with the wood.
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Post by niels on Dec 2, 2009 14:58:19 GMT -6
I get what you mean by letting it be in the house for a few months. You always get better idea's when you are thinking longer about it. (I am also still thinking of doing Squier customization ) I am not a real fan of the body shape of the first picture. Maybe it's cool to do something whole different. Maybe an Explorer or a flying V. I know you are a fan of traditional shapes but why not give it a try? ( I Remember a thread which was called ''thinking out of the box ) Niels
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