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Post by dnic on Dec 2, 2009 14:59:43 GMT -6
Hey Don, I tried to post some links last night with lengthy explanations and then lost it all. To tired or to stupid to make it work. guitarattack.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=528This is the link to my Teak build which is fairly well documented and the primary reason I haven't gotten involved in the "the tools I use thread" It would be reruns. and as a side note I designed the first Jonah body style about 5 years before I tried to build one and when I pulled the paper work back out I basically started over. It was huge. The main thing that stayed in the design was the horns that kind of turn back on themselves. I had never seen a dano or burns at the point nor a mosrite. I guess I just like retro kinds of looks. d  |
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Post by dnic on Dec 2, 2009 15:04:36 GMT -6
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Post by donovan on Dec 2, 2009 15:12:52 GMT -6
Hey thanks a ton Dane for those links! I really appreciate it!
Heck, maybe Bison Burns and Danelectro stole their ideas from you haha!
Either way, if I had the money, I would totally but one of those from you or commission you to build one for me!
Back to Eagleblues, I think an SG would be a seet guitar but you could change up the neck on it and the heel of it. So it's a classic with a bit of a twist.
Somone said the Tele Thinlines, I like those a lot too!'
Here's a thought, and I would love to know more info about them because I woulf love to even have one, but how do you build a hollow-body? I mean like an Ibanez Artcore with that slimline body or an ES-335!
I would love a link to anyone has built one! I am sure they are way more difficult so they would be out of the question for a first build plus, I refuse to work on them because I don't want to have to work around the F-holes and everything! Very very tricky!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 15:22:29 GMT -6
I get what you mean by letting it be in the house for a few months. You always get better idea's when you are thinking longer about it. (I am also still thinking of doing Squier customization  ) I am not a real fan of the body shape of the first picture. Maybe it's cool to do something whole different. Maybe an Explorer or a flying V. I know you are a fan of traditional shapes but why not give it a try? ( I Remember a thread which was called ''thinking out of the box  ) Niels True!(about thinking out of the box) But it's still all up in the air. Never liked the V guitars. I don't get there popularity. Just not my cup of tea. I might try and come up a design of my own. I do have a lot of ideas just not a lot of money. I may let this idea set on the shelf for a long while to see what I come up with. There is one thing I do when I build guitars I build to please myself. If someone likes what I do then the better. That is the way I built cars too I built them the way I wanted them and I never had a problem selling any of the 200+ cars. so that's all I have been doing with guitar. I build what I see in my head. I figured out a real long time ago you can't make everyone happy and that there are those no matter what you do will never be happy. So like I said I build what is in me to build. All my guitars are one offs no two are a like Even the T-Stiles are not the same. Even the shape of each one is not the same. I just like the shape. and after the copper-T it will be my last T Stile for a long long time that I do. Un less I make body's to sell but that's a whole other thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 15:38:51 GMT -6
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Post by donovan on Dec 2, 2009 18:36:38 GMT -6
Hey thanks for the link Eddie! It was a very interesting video and I really appreciate it!
You know honestly, I hate to sound cocky but, the actual building of the body doesn't seem terribly difficult. I mean you would have to get handy with a router big time! But if I bought a pre-made neck, it could be done! I don't know though, the hardest part of it would be the hardware and those dang electronics! You would have stuff falling all over the place!
And you could not be more right, the only person who really matters that likes the guitar is ultimately you! We might just seem "OK" about it but if you love it then that's all that really matters in the long run!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 21:06:03 GMT -6
Well, even with a bought neck there is a little more to putting the neck on than just routing out the neck pocket and bolting it on.
You have to know what kind of bridge your going to put on it first. If you go with the Less Paul type you have to do a neck angle or else the action will be really high.
You might get away with routing flat if you use a fender stile bridge. But then you have to figure out how deep to put the neck. If you go too deep you wont be able to lower the bridge saddles enough. If don't go deep enough then the bridge saddles won't go high enough. But then you can always re-rout it and lower the neck.
This is where I have had a learning curve on doing a set neck on the copper-T Because it is a set neck I have taken so many measurements I can't even count. I am hopping I got it right. I've done everything by the book but like everything I have learned even going by the book is not always going to work out.
But if for some unseen reason it don't work out I'll cut the neck off re-rout it and try again. But I see no reason it won't work.
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Post by donovan on Dec 2, 2009 21:09:06 GMT -6
Yes I'm sure you will be fine! With your skills Eddie, I know it will work out just fine!
Perfect fit!
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Post by dnic on Dec 3, 2009 0:20:39 GMT -6
Here's another link for an arch top es335 style guitar. Notice the first vid didn't have a carved top and it was about a 1/2" thick at the f-holes. This one would be much more difficult to build. www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU3020V6W-8&feature=relatedDonovan, thanks for the kudos, both of those guitars are for sale at very reduced price considering the whole one off thing. They play like buttah. And although I am old I am not old, or English enough for Burns to have copied me.  d |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2009 9:02:39 GMT -6
Yeah that is what I was talking about. That is more of the way they are really built. Kind of like a an acoustic.
I'm wanting to build mine with the carved top that is one reason it will be a while before I do one I need some way to carve the top. I know I can handle the underside but I don't have any little planes to carve the top. So I have been resurrecting ways of doing that. Yeah I know you can use a belt sander or grinder but one slip with eater one and it's lost for good. Plus I like the carving idea.
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Post by niels on Dec 3, 2009 9:33:37 GMT -6
Would be awesome an Es335,and that's also pretty ''out of the box'' .
I am curious what it will look like.
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Post by donovan on Dec 3, 2009 9:54:45 GMT -6
Thanks for the link again Dane! I haven't had time to check it out yet but I will after school tonight!
By the way, is there anyway you could PM me with the prices of either of those guitars. I might be able to scratch together some money. No guarantees or anything but I am highly interested since you are selling!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2009 11:48:31 GMT -6
Yeah I had an ES 335 once. Wish I never sold it.
To buy one is just way out of my price range. So I'll will build one someday. That's if someone doesn't give me one someday or even a good copy.
I have been looking at the Jay Trusser version I could someday buy one of them. It would be less expensive to buy one of them than to build one. But what fun is there in that?
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Post by donovan on Dec 3, 2009 12:12:35 GMT -6
Yeah Eddie, some ES335 copies are hot!
There is an old gun in town who has taught me a lot about guitar and used to work at the music store in town and he has this (relatively) old Samick Semi-hollow that he plays for his band work and for his practice guitar as well. It sounds great and it takes distortion and OD really great.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2009 12:27:12 GMT -6
Yeah I have been wanting one fro a long time now.
There is a way to build them so you don't get feed back from them. That has been the issue with a lot of them. They feed back like now if you stand too close to the amp. But I found out what to do to them to keep that for happening.
I might try and start on building one next summer. I am still looking for work and it will take some new tools to get the job done. But like I said I will build one.
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