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Post by dnic on Sept 9, 2022 13:23:33 GMT -6
Never hurts to take stock of the process and think your through it. Since you have down time anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2022 9:36:04 GMT -6
Been working on cutting the fret slots. Can I say not fun? Been cutting them for a few hours. That is over the last 2 days. I have 9 more to go. I even switched saws to see if that was the problem. I thought maybe one saw was getting dull. But no!!! I have the same thing going on with both saws.
I get down to the center of the cut, and it's like the wood gets super hard and the saw blade does not what to go any deeper. I keep on wiping off the saw blade and putting on some bee's wax, but it heaps some, but is still real hard to cut the slots.
I have never cut fret slots this hard before. Wish I could afford one of them saw blades for the table saw. Think I would go over to that in a heart beat.
Well, going to rest up and see if I can finish this up today. I would like to get back out to the shop. But it is still raining here. I need to find me some lighting for the shop. Think that is what I am going to work on. The weather here is supposed to drop a lot in the next few days. It will be nice to be out in the shop and not get overheated.
Don't know what I'll do for the winter here. It gets down below 15 degrees here. So that will be cold for me. LOL! The shop has open beams. They never finished sealing off the roof. So it's all open. It will be hard to heat the space up. Wish I owned the place. So much I would like to do.
OK, I'll get back to ya all later on.
EB
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Post by antares on Sept 10, 2022 17:10:39 GMT -6
Eddie if it only got down to 15 Celcius here we could see it out with a fleece jacket and save several thousands on gas and I could buy another guitar!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2022 7:21:08 GMT -6
Today is doctor day (again) I am going to try and do a Shop talk Monday 2. I will have to see how long I am at the doctors. Feel like that is my home away from home at times.
EB
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Post by dnic on Sept 12, 2022 8:28:05 GMT -6
Good luck at the Doc.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2022 17:53:43 GMT -6
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Post by dnic on Sept 13, 2022 9:17:44 GMT -6
Watched and commented on YT. But let's continue the discussion here. Eddie, Steve and I all come from the old school of tighten the chuck three times. I have changed my drill press to a hand chuck and my cordless drill also has a hand tighten chuck. Why don't they need to be tightened from three directions to get the conical jaws to drop in just right?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2022 10:12:02 GMT -6
Watched and commented on YT. But let's continue the discussion here. Eddie, Steve and I all come from the old school of tighten the chuck three times. I have changed my drill press to a hand chuck and my cordless drill also has a hand tighten chuck. Why don't they need to be tightened from three directions to get the conical jaws to drop in just right? The hand type tightened up all the way around at the same time. Where the one the uses a chuck does not. When using in a precise setting, I would use a key chuck over the other type. Like in machine work. I know that in today's world of automated machines it may be all together different. But in hand use I still like the key chuck. I too have the other kind of drills with the hand type chuck. They are fast and easy to use. But what I don't like about them is that the drill bit can spin on you whereas the key chucked in bit won't if done like we have talked about.
I know it takes longer to set up a chuck using a chuck key, and I am OK with that. For me, I am not in the big a hurry to do my work. I like to use my keyless chuck around the house. Depending on what I am doing, I will also use it for making the small screw holes in a guitar. But when it comes to my larger holes, I will use my drill press with a key chuck or my hand drill with the key chuck. For me, it just works out better.
Anything I don't like is to have a bit, spin on me when drilling holes in wood or metal. With a keyless chuck, that happens to me a lot. So, again, I don't mind taking the time and using a key chuck. I know it's old school, but hey, I don't use CNC as well. LOL!
But again, the keyless chucks are not made in the same way that a key chuck is made. Ever take one apart? The keyless chuck is made to tighten up on the bit all the way around at the same time. Not a key chuck.
I too have been using a key chuck for most of my life now. I will probably use them for the rest of mine. Yes, like said, the keyless are faster and easier to use. They all have their place in the shop. And it's fine for anyone to use the keyless. One nice thing about the keyless is you won't lose the chuck key. LOL!
EB
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Post by antares on Sept 13, 2022 15:13:34 GMT -6
It's an acquired knack releasing a hand tightened keyed chuck with that coordinated flick of the wrist. Like riding a bike- you never lose it but it's baffling to watch before you know how to do it. It's much easier with a keyless chuck (we used to call them "twist chuck drills" back in the late 1970s although I suspect we made that up) because you can rely upon the torque of the motor to turn against. Anyways- we're drifting away from the real cream of this thread.
Edit: I developed a ganglion where my right hand ring finger attached to my palm. The doctor just shrugged. One day I realised that the tommy bar in my chuck key that had gone missing and I had pressed a 1/4-28 UNF cap head bolt in to replace it. The cap head on that bolt was causing it. I took some solid 1" diameter aluminium bar with a 1/4-28 thread and screwed it down onto the thread on the chuck key's "tommy bar" and used the new 6" long aluminium handle instead. Fixed! The ganglion subsided in a short while and boy could I ever tighten that chuck from then on!
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Post by dnic on Sept 13, 2022 16:31:18 GMT -6
Steve, nothing like a ganglion to motivate one into design mode.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2022 9:56:14 GMT -6
Nice day out today. I got to spend some time in the shop. I have to charge up my phone before I can make another video. But I worked on the lower wing of the guitar. I'll let my video show you all what I did.
EB
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2022 13:54:49 GMT -6
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Post by dnic on Sept 16, 2022 8:52:09 GMT -6
I saw the vid on YT. I was thinking you could have hung the top over all the way around the wing and trimmed the neck edge with the router just like everywhere else. No need to worry about perfect alignment and jointing the edge because you already jointed the body wing. 6 of one half dozen of the other cause either way will do fine. Just saying
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2022 10:45:46 GMT -6
I saw the vid on YT. I was thinking you could have hung the top over all the way around the wing and trimmed the neck edge with the router just like everywhere else. No need to worry about perfect alignment and jointing the edge because you already jointed the body wing. 6 of one half dozen of the other cause either way will do fine. Just saying I did think of that. But I would have to put the router back into the router table. (to be safer) But I already had the joiner flipped on my flip top. I have the joiner set up to where it only shaves off a small amount of wood. It worked out fine.
I also thought of routing the sides off. But using that orbital sander works so good! Made quick work of it and didn't have to worry about any chip out from the router.
Like I said before, I changed things around on every build.
That spalted maple I have had for a lot of years now. I bought like 6 panels of that stuff back then. These are the last two I have. So I am trying real hard not to mess them up. Same on the mahogany body wings. That is all I have left that was big enough to make the body. I know they are from my last build. They were all I had on hand to make this guitar.
As it is right now, I will end up spend another $200.00 or more before it's done. That is not counting the coast of the woods being used.
Well, there is a lot more to come with this build.
EB
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Post by dnic on Sept 16, 2022 11:56:42 GMT -6
I agree Eddie, I'd much rather route on a table than hand held. I finally got one of those Infinity router bits that has a bearing top and bottom. So you cut one way with the grain and then flip it over and cut the rest with the grain as well. Just have to adjust the bearing between the two operations. That doesn't mean it won't still grab it right out of your hands. Not me, but I've seen it happen.
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