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Post by dnic on Apr 15, 2023 7:36:12 GMT -6
Seems like there's always plenty to keep us busy in the shop. Even if it's just clean up and more organizing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2023 7:43:12 GMT -6
Seems like there's always plenty to keep us busy in the shop. Even if it's just clean up and more organizing. Yes, I have some reorganizing I need to do. Been putting it off. Since I got them new saws, well new to me, I need to find a resting place for them.
Thinking of redoing one of the table/bench, so I can bolt down some tools, so I don't have to use clamps. I may do some of that today.
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Post by dnic on Apr 17, 2023 21:28:57 GMT -6
Cool Eddie! Gonna be a very nice one when it's all finished up.
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Post by antares on Apr 18, 2023 10:08:29 GMT -6
Good one Eddie. I guess from the same manufacturer of the Tung oil finish there shouldn't be a problem, but since you thin down the first couple of coats to facilitate take up into the wood, I wonder whether the MinWax hardener might affect that topically?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2023 13:10:46 GMT -6
Good one Eddie. I guess from the same manufacturer of the Tung oil finish there shouldn't be a problem, but since you thin down the first couple of coats to facilitate take up into the wood, I wonder whether the MinWax hardener might affect that topically? でつ e&oe ...It is supposed to work. I did my let's say looking into it. I will do some testing first. EB
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2023 13:20:53 GMT -6
Some bad news. The neck has to be remade. Two things happened. First off, the guy I am making the guitar for didn't like the color of the woods. (The neck) He felt that the woods clash some. Hum...
So, I knew right then and there I should make a new neck. But no! I have to go ahead and try to use the neck. So in carving the neck today, I filed way too far into the wood and exposed the truss rod. Now I have to make a new neck.
I have some real nice Poplar I bought a long time ago. I used it for necks before, and it should go better with the body since it too is Poplar. The center of the neck will be some of that heavy wood I used for the leather top guitar. That stuff is harder than steal. So the neck will be stable.
So, here I go once again wondering if I should stop making guitars. My day started out so good, too.
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Post by dnic on Apr 18, 2023 18:14:08 GMT -6
Watched and thumbed up my friend.
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Post by antares on Apr 19, 2023 2:21:01 GMT -6
He didn't like the colour of the woods? Hmm. I didn't realise he was a fare paying passenger- I thought the build was a quid-pro-quo for all that highly figured poplar? Hmm. "Entitled" eh? A modern phenomenon. You know, I don't cook, so I'm always grateful for whatever is served up for me even if I don't like it, so long as I know it won't poison me I give thanks and eat. That was inculcated into me from a very young age with "you're not getting down until you've eaten it". On the other hand, since you've suffered a major setback it seems like the silver lining in the cloud.
I feel for ya with that slip up Eddie.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2023 6:51:43 GMT -6
Things happen. It's not the first time that things went wrong. I only wish that one build would go without a hitch.
As far as the guy I am making this for, he didn't care for the woods I used for the neck itself. He felt that the neck didn't blend in with the body and the veneer I made.
But the biggest thing I did, I cut into the head stock too deep. It is unfixable. So I cut the head stock off in hopes I can save the veneer, more on that later.
Went into my wood stock and decided to use the woods I mentioned. It should be more pleasing to the eye. At least the outer woods of the neck will be made of poplar. Then there will be dark wood going down the middle of that.
So back in the shop today to start all over on the neck. It will be glue uptime today. I will also be testing out that wood hardener.
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Post by dnic on Apr 19, 2023 7:39:20 GMT -6
I missed the post the about the client not liking the wood colors and the neck ouch. Man that't rough. Sorry to hear this. I used poplar on a thru neck guitar my son ended up with so I've seen it 20 years down the road. The neck is perfect, never been adjusted and is solid. So poplar is not a problem for necks. Just a toss rod, prolly a single one way affair and no carbon fiber. In fact I've just added CF to a neck I roughed out years ago for a LPJ I was planning to make. Never used it before and it will be some time before I have this neck up and running.
I'm kinda there with Steve (it's free don't be picky) but I get when your building for someone you want them to enjoy the product even if you're not making a bunch of money on the deal.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2023 10:25:45 GMT -6
I missed the post the about the client not liking the wood colors and the neck ouch. Man that't rough. Sorry to hear this. I used poplar on a thru neck guitar my son ended up with so I've seen it 20 years down the road. The neck is perfect, never been adjusted and is solid. So poplar is not a problem for necks. Just a toss rod, prolly a single one way affair and no carbon fiber. In fact I've just added CF to a neck I roughed out years ago for a LPJ I was planning to make. Never used it before and it will be some time before I have this neck up and running. I'm kinda there with Steve (it's free don't be picky) but I get when your building for someone you want them to enjoy the product even if you're not making a bunch of money on the deal. This is a trade. He has something that I want and need here, living out in the country. But, he is also putting in some cash on top of the trade. Should be a cool deal. But nothing will happen until I see the thing up and close. All I am going off of is pictures. Cost wise, we should be close to the same.
This may turn out to be a good thing, with the neck ending up being redone. After gluing up the new neck blank, I do think it looks better.
I did some experimenting with the wood hardener on the old peg head. Looks like everything will be just fine! So that's a good thing.
Well, back out to shop. Going to see about cutting the fret slots. I did get two more fret boards out of the leftover birds eye maple. That will be all of that wood I have left.
Also, this week I may try to make up one or two more neck blanks. I figure while I'm feeling pretty good, I might as well do all I can. I never know when one of my episodes will come around.
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Post by dnic on Apr 20, 2023 7:49:03 GMT -6
Well that is a huge bummer Eddie. Somehow seeing it is way worse than hearing about it.
I had some wood in the shop that was so hard it flattened my jointer blades in one pass. With sparks flying. Must of had a lot of mineral inside. I got it from a company I was building custom tables for from reclaimed woods. I believe it was called Nara. If that dark wood is that hard to cut I suspect it will be a nightmare to carve.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2023 10:11:44 GMT -6
Well that is a huge bummer Eddie. Somehow seeing it is way worse than hearing about it. I had some wood in the shop that was so hard it flattened my jointer blades in one pass. With sparks flying. Must of had a lot of mineral inside. I got it from a company I was building custom tables for from reclaimed woods. I believe it was called Nara. If that dark wood is that hard to cut I suspect it will be a nightmare to carve. I will see how hard it will be as far as carving a neck goes.
This is the first one I did that was totally my fault. The other necks that failed were from the wood twisting or bowing, or both. 4 necks out of 20 years, not so bad.
The only other wood I used that was super hard was the “Rose” guitar I build out of rosewood. That took me 3 weeks to carve the neck alone. I went through 4 router bits and 3 band saw blades to get that guitar made. Plus, that is the guitar I wound up putting my fingers through the router. That is the guitar that though me not to use power tools while on morphine. And not to let people push me into a timeline while on drugs. LOL!
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Post by dnic on Apr 20, 2023 18:19:15 GMT -6
LOL Eddie, I do all my drug use on my own time too. Don't rush me when I'm stoned.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2023 6:40:53 GMT -6
LOL Eddie, I do all my drug use on my own time too. Don't rush me when I'm stoned. Yep, we all learn the hard way. Back then, I was over the top in pain. Not only was I on drugs, they were going in and cutting nerves and numbing them, in trying to get me some relief from all the pain I was in. Nerve pain is not like a muscle ache.
But, I have long been off them hard drugs, I won't let them do anymore cutting on me nor nerve deadening. Why? Because it was a waste of time and money. None of it really helped. In fact, it made it worse in the long run.
I do still take some pain meds that I have to be tested for every 30 days to make sure I am not abusing the drug. That is a new law that the doctors say they have to do. At least here in AL.
But this is why I have to work in small segments. Some of the things I show in my videos take sometimes two days for something I used to be able to do in a few hours.
There are some out there that just don't understand what I go through to get something simple done. Then add in the other stuff I am dealing with. There are times I have to shut down for days in trying to cope with it all.
I have tried over and over again to get people to understand that not all people can do things easily to get things done.
What has happened to me in sharing what I go through has caused some to make fun of me and call me names. I do hope that, these people will not have to go through what I have been put through. But in other ways I hope they do. Then maybe they will see life is not all that easy, and they are not above being made fun of.
Right now I am feeling pretty good. But that can change in a moment. So, I take it while I can. The new drugs the doctors have me on for my brain, seems to be working pretty good. I wish they could find a good way to help with pain.
I did nothing in the shop yesterday do to pain. Hope to be able to get in the shop and spend a little time out there today.
The new truss rods are supposed to be here on Sat. So Sunday or Monday, I'll be able to put the truss rod into the new neck blank.
Today, I will see about cutting the peg head angle and start on them fret slots in the fret board. That may be all I do for the day.
I may look at starting another neck blank for my next build I am designing right now. Going to do an LP body, I think. But you all know me, it won't be normal. LOL!
I have some walnut and some of that spalted poplar I would like to join together for a top. Should be interesting. I am looking for a piece of walnut I can use for the back of the body. But so far it's all been too expensive. I did see some cherry wood I may end up buying. But who knows what I'll come up with in the next few months.
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