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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2012 18:32:05 GMT -6
You know, after taking another look at the pictures, I see it is a hallow body. You might think about reinforcing the neck pocket. Have you checked to see that the neck is where it is suppose to be? Nothing worse than having high action. Just a thought.
EB
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Post by chezvoz on Jan 31, 2012 0:03:53 GMT -6
The neck looked like it fit pretty tight when I took it apart, but there were only some rusty strings on it then. I'll string it up before I spend tons of time getting the electronics.
The fretboard is very dry. I read that lemon oil was the thing to use, but found this info that says otherwise in a google search:
"Once the fretboard is clean, wipe the entire surface with the oil dampened cloth to seal it. The furniture oil that is left behind will replenish the oil lost from the surface of the wood and help retard further losses. Use as little as possible; you just want to put a slight gloss on the surface.
"Select a furniture oil that contains petroleum distillates. Avoid silicones and waxes."
What do you recommend?
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Post by GuitarAttack Forum on Jan 31, 2012 6:30:59 GMT -6
I do not recommend using furniture polish on a guitar. I use lemon oil on unfinished rosewood fingerboards and I have always had good luck.
Avoid the temptation to "flood" the fingerboard with the lemon oil. I recommend several thin applications rather than one large one.
Good luck, John
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Post by dnic on Jan 31, 2012 10:22:17 GMT -6
I like this stuff from Stew. www.stewmac.com/shop/Fretting_supplies/Fingerboard_cleaner,_stain_and_oil/ColorTone_Fretboard_Finishing_Oil.html Works like a champ. I don't trust product labels in hardware stores anymore after buying "shellac" that didn't have any in it and had to refinish a guitar because all the paint popped off.
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Post by chezvoz on Jan 31, 2012 19:41:28 GMT -6
I don't think he meant furniture polish, he called it furniture oil, which I think we might generally call wood oil. Lots of people like and use lemon oil, which, according to my research is actually only a small percentage of lemon oil. Pure lemon oil (or other citrus oils) is composed of d-limonene at an amount of 90% or more and d-limonene is a very strong solvent. It is used to remove glue, paint, grease, oil and other substances. It's reported that D'Aquisto felt that lemon oil, or any other vegetable based oil, could literally rot the wood as it decomposed while saturated into the wood cells and pores of a fingerboard. I was convinced that I could use a wood oil, but I was out in the garage looking at the label and the fretboard, and decided to clean it really well first. And a good thing, too. It does not look as dry now and other more important things have become obvious. I think the danage on the edge is important to fill or repair somehow because the binding could easily break there. There is also a divot in the middle, perhaps visible in photo 2. a blurry photo of a ding - half the size of a pencil eraser.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2012 21:22:57 GMT -6
Dings in wood can be taken out with a little heat and steam.
As far as the missing wood... You can fill in but it would be nice if you had some rosewood to help with the fill. If you had some rosewood you can sand it and make a filler with the dust, or if your really good, you could carve a small piece then glue in. But you right you need to fix it where the binding is.
As far as a ding I would live with it. I don't think you would even know it's there with strings on it and playing it. But that's me. For them small dings you can use a soldering iron and a little water. If it's a ding it will raise up, if it's not a ding it will stay there. Be sure to use an old t-shirt between the heat source and the wood.
On a lot of guitars I have worked on I use a razor blade to scrape off the fret board to get all the junk off it. Then I use a bee's wax with lemon oil on the fret board. I have only seen two rosewood fret boards with cracks in them, since I have been working on guitars. I have seen a lot of rosewood boards that are dried out. When I find them that way I put on a little oil and re oil the next day. Depending how dried out it is I may repeat for a few days till it looks like it wont take anymore. So far I have had no issues. I also use steal wool (0000) before I oil. I also will polish the frets after I have put on some oil on the board. But I do clean the boards before I do any oiling.
Rosewood seems to be the wood that gets the dirtiest. They always seem to have that thick sticky junk on them. I have even seen them like that on "new guitars" at the music stores. I always have to ask how long has this guitar been in the store when I see them that way. EB
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Post by chezvoz on Jan 31, 2012 21:47:43 GMT -6
EB
THanks for those tips. I know you've said them to others before, but I often seem to forget good advice over time.
Before Christmas, I went to the Schecter warehouse sale and bought a guitar for my son. While there, I also picked up a Daisy Rock guitar (Schecter's owner's wife runs it) with a broken neck. Everything else on it was as new - pickups, tuners, pots, etc. So I can take some of that rosewood and try to repair the Crown FB.
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Post by chezvoz on Feb 2, 2012 18:22:40 GMT -6
I should get to the fretboard fixes this weekend. In the meantime, I need to get other parts of the string path repaired. The bridge that came with it was very much like one that I picked up at a guitar show a few years ago. Only much cleaner! The saddles are spaced differently and the holes on the Crown bridge are larger, so I'm going to try and get the original into shape. One bridge post is also bent. I hope it won't matter with a little straightening.
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Post by wirewrapper on Feb 2, 2012 19:31:20 GMT -6
It looks like you could swap the saddles from the new bridge to the old one, if you don.t want to clean the old ones up.
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Post by dnic on Feb 2, 2012 19:36:55 GMT -6
I'd try to clean up the original bridge rather then go to a wider string spacing. That stud may very well break at the threaded section when straightened but you got to try. Heat might help. It's these kind of things that make me want a small metal working lathe. The neck chunks can also be fixed with rosewood dust pushed in the hole dry and then add #10 ca on top and it will wick through the patch and let dry. Then scrape and sand to shape, clean and oil the whole board and it should blend in OK.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 21:30:16 GMT -6
You might try looking for the post at the hardware store, or at least find something you can make it to a post. I too feel that the post may just break, crack or weaken it.
But, if it were me I would try and fix it first. I would screw it together, then use vice grips or a vice on the side that does not touch, and clamp it till it looks like it's straight or flat to the two pieces. Hope that makes since.
I looked in my guitar junk stuff, I don't have anything close. But maybe someone else on here might be able to help.
EB
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Post by chezvoz on Feb 2, 2012 22:28:14 GMT -6
I am going to try to work with what's here for now but it is very corroded. The moving parts are still in working condition, though. I am first going to get it moderately clean and string it up to make sure of the alignment. If everything looks good, then I'll try to use what's here to get it working again -except for the tail piece. StratPurist is going to send my a Bigsby that I think will work out great.
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Post by chezvoz on Feb 3, 2012 19:45:21 GMT -6
New question. I’m wondering what to do here about pickups. I will need to make my own pickup rings because no existing rings are as long. The only stock pickup that fits in the hole without enlargement is a mini humbucker. So the question is, Do I use some humbuckers that I have already and enlarge the hole - economical Buy some mini HBs but will have a large pickup to ring ratio – Buy the GFS oversize pups and enlarge the hole slightly
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Post by dnic on Feb 3, 2012 20:55:22 GMT -6
Are you saying the mini's will fit the existing rings with no mods? Mini's are sposed to be thinner and weaker than a normal sized bucker but that might not be a bad thing with a hollow body.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2012 21:19:00 GMT -6
I have a set of mini's in one of my jazz guitars and love them. I guess it's really up to you and what you want the guitar to do or sound like, and how much work you want to put into it. But all the combo's you listed sound good to me.
But with me being on a small budget all the time, I would go with what I had on hand, or at least think on it long and hard. EB
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