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Post by stratpurist on Jul 19, 2024 6:14:16 GMT -6
Instead of corrupting the fave pedal thread I thought pedal disasters would be fun.
One of my friends uses (and loves) a multi effect pedal (Zoom G3) for live shows. I was considering getting away from using my modeling amp and bought the newer G3xn.
Hours and hours of tweaking on the pedal as well as the PC app and I could not balance the volume between banks and setting AND most of the effects were unpleasant.
I hate to give up but it's time to put it up for sale on FB or CL
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Post by antares on Jul 19, 2024 9:26:38 GMT -6
Not my favourite pedal would have to be my Digitech Whammy. There have been more than several iterations all superficially identical to look at. I know (eg) Tom Morello manages to make constructive and even musical sounds with his, and there are plenty of other folks too I'm certain. For myself though, after I got over the novelty, I've never used it again.
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Post by GuitarAttack Forum on Jul 22, 2024 8:16:40 GMT -6
I had an old green MXR analog delay - the one you plugged in - and it was probably my least favorite pedal. I tolerated it until I got my pink Ibanez delay.
It was either that or my Echoplex, and I still have a love/hate relationship with that rig.
Concerning getting the levels set, I stumbled upon a technique. I was playing in a Pink Floyd tribute band and I had to go from clean to distorted sounds a number of times during the same song. The output of my multieffects unit would change dramatically between patches, and our soundman would always give me a really hard time. It was a problem, and I wasn't sure how to approach it.
I realized that the output of a guitar is alternating current (AC). If I could measure it with a multimeter with an AC function, I could find the max output pretty easily. My theory was that the output of the multieffects should be about the same as the output of the guitar across all patches.
I setup my multieffects and found a clean patch that I used during the show. I played some chords and I measured the AC current coming out of the back of the multieffects. This would be my baseline.
Note: I had a patch cord that I had cut one of the plugs off of. I clipped the multimeter leads onto the "unplugged" end and plugged the other end into the output of the multieffects unit. You can also just clip the leads onto a 1/4" plug to avoid cutting anything.
I went through each patch, played the associated song, and set the output volume using that first AC reading as a baseline.
Unbelievably, the patches were almost perfectly balanced at the next rehearsal, and I actually got a compliment from the soundman.
A more scientific method would be to play into a looper pedal and use that to feed the multieffects units for a volume check on each patch.
John
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Post by GuitarAttack Forum on Jul 23, 2024 13:52:45 GMT -6
Back to the post -- I had an old RAT distortion that I bought new, and I never liked it.
It never sounded good with my amps and I wound up selling it.
Again, if you leave it on and use it for your base tone, it would probably be alright. However, I think an MXR Microamp or Dynacomp had more boost.
John
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Post by dnic on Nov 12, 2024 10:18:26 GMT -6
Well I totally missed this thread.
I had the exact problem with a multi-effects. The Boss M-50 The blue one with three big buttons. I spent hours trying to level the patches. Presets were all over the place. I ended up just using one setting with each button and that keep them at the volume I set them at.
Funny thing is I played with a guy for a while that had the same pedal. He was the lead guitarist. We'd set him up for a solo and it would ether be blasting or to quiet. Then he'd fiddle with the knobs and then go into his solo. It didn't help the band stay tight. It was a pain in the butt pedal.
Still can't get a sound out of my Dynacomp that I find enjoyable. And I already use the MXR Microamp for boost.
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Post by GuitarAttack Forum on Nov 12, 2024 10:36:53 GMT -6
Dane - I'm with you...the volume jumps and dives are almost too much to take!
"Back in the old days", the guitar volume knob was a key element to evening out the level. Somehow the multi-effects make it less effective.
John
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Post by GuitarAttack Forum on Nov 14, 2024 14:06:40 GMT -6
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