computers! LOL

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Seems like my threads always go off onto something else.

 But some got to chatting about coding. A long time ago I use to use codes for setting type in printing. This was long before Apple came out. We used dos or Linux. Linux and Dos was were a lot a like back them.

 But then Apple came out and things in the print world started to change. I remember when windows started to go out of the Dos and started to go into more of the windows theme. Over the years I seen computer go from taking up a whole building to now in your hands.

 I remember when I was going to collage and taking a graphic arts class. I was sitting at a monitor and key board programing the computer to type out an 8 1/2 X 11" sheet. The computer took up a huge space and was in a room that was kept cold and and a huge filtering system on it. The rood had to be dust free. Well, anyways, the teacher came over and asked me how I like the new computer system. I told him it was pretty cool. I went on to tell him that some day I could see a computer in every home and that it would fit in our laps. He laughed at me and said no way will tha ever happen. I told him, you watch it will come to pass.

 I the 90s I got into making custom computers for people. I am self tough. When it comes to building computers. Back in the early days of windows 95 up until XP came out there where what as known as back doors in the OP system. I found this on my own. I was able to go in and re write the code to may windows 95 and 98 run better. Many, many hours teaching myself all this stuff.

 I also found out that many programs had back doors in them and I could... Well, get them to work without a key... LOL

I also got into hacking for a time. The reason I stopped hacking was I got into a government Computer. They scared the heck out of me. I was not only getting emails for them they were calling me and  wanting to know how I got into their computer. I was an accident that I got into it. LOL! I wound up changing out the mother board and some other things in the computer that I had used for hacking. Over time they quit calling me and sending me letters. They never did come to my house. But I knew they were watching me and I felt at times they were listing in to my phone calls.

 But I stopped hacking because of that. It scared me a lot.

 So I also back in the day would fix computers. I would tell people that I would know everything about their computer and where they had been on the net. I know how to get rid of bugs and other threats by going into the C commands in windows and into control panel in Linux. I use to have a good Linux program that would fix Windows.

 I got into fixing computers after I took an old computer in to have it worked on. I was working full time at that time. But the computer place I took it wanted $100.00 to look at it. I told him the computer was not worth a $100.00. I'll fix it my self. That was on a Friday. by Sunday I had tough myself how to fix that computer.

 So it went form that to wanting to know more. Now you have to know this was long before FB and You Tube. and my space. and so on. LOL! So I could not go on line like we can now and find info on how to fix a computer. Not only that, that old computer was all I had at the time. So I kept at it until late a night and one time that weekend the sun was coming up.

 But I did it! After that weekend, I felt like I was really smart! HA! Even with my learning disability I concurred that computer.

 Today, I don't do to much with computers. I have 3 old lap tops that I keep going for me. But that's it. Two of them have Linux on them. The 3rd one has windows 10. I hate that computer. But it has some cool windows games on it that I like. LOL! Someday it will have Linux on it.

  I never got into fixing Apple computers. I have had a lot of them, and installed the apple OP systems. But, I would up selling them because I could get more for them than a Windows computer.

 I don't always talk about this stuff. But since it was talked about on my thread I thought I would chime in here.

 Someday soon computing will change in a big way. We are getting closer and closer to computer being completely operated by voice. No more key boards or OP systems like we have now. Look up the computer they are wanting to release in the next few years. There is one that is like Star Trec or Star wars. More than 3d.

 Well, alright I'll stop. But another reason I got out of computers is because I got into guitars! HA! HA! HA!  They are lot more fun to make!

 EB 

[dnic]

I like computers a lot. Can't say that I know much about what makes them tick but I need them for everyday life anymore. I can usually fix problems, but when it goes way bad like my dell did recently I just gave up and got another one. I could still probably retrieve my lost data but it's almost a relief to not have to deal with years of video to edit. And I run computers all day at work, lots of different software programs for all the various things we do in the hardware store. My main thing is video editing witch as you know if you've watched my videos is passible but not artistic. It's a necessary evil for a YouTuber.

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I lost interest in wrenching computers when they went across from BIOS to UEFI. A couple of weeks ago, I reclaimed an old IBM laptop that my sister purloined from me. I figured I'd give it the once over and put Linux on it (Slackware). The fixed disk turned out to have the click of death and a spell in the freezer didn't rescue it. I only discovered the hard drive was US after replacing the CMOS back up cell. I stripped it right down to install a wireless card antenna and now it wont start, probably because I over tightened the CPU fan and cracked a track. It's toast!

Let's stick with guitars guys.

e&oe ...

[dnic]

Steve, you had me at "lost interest" and lost me at "bios to uefi".


"Let's stick with guitars guys." AMEN!

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A lot of things have changed in computers. And that may never end. But with AI now, it wont be long until you wont have to do much of anything.

 

 That is how I also feel about CNC made guitars. I think in a lot of ways they have or are taking away the craft of guitar building. I do think they are cool. As far as computers go, I wonder how long it will be before you can scan your project and the CNC will do the rest?

In digital printing. we can now scan what we want printed into the computer and it comes out on the other end. I am talking about printing not copies. The last digital press I ran you could scan what you wanted at one end and the image would develop on the press ready to print. No on hands of placing a plate on the press. And they don't use Ink like we use to. The ink looks like colored bad of water.

Now we are into the 3D printing. Many people are getting into that. Today you can 3D print anything. Add that to an AI and again we will not want for anything.

 But on the CNC. My son has been trying to get me to go over to a CNC. The one he showed me starts at $2,000 US. It is super impressive of what it can do. Wouldn't you know the first thing it shows you is how it can carve out a guitar and neck. And in the add it says it is much faster than the older ones. Hum...

 I guess If I was going to keep making the same thing for sale it would be OK. I could make my own guitar kits. If I could find a wood source and have a place to keep the wood.

But yes enough about computers. Lest get back to making guitars!

EB

[stratpurist]

I'm sure Eddie meant UNIX and not Linux. UNIX, a commercial OS, came out around 1970 while Linux, a free and open source OS, came out in 1991 (Apple PCs 1st appeared in 1976, the MAC in 1984). FWIW, I worked for a company that built UNIX computers back in 1982.

I still work with computers. I just finished a project for the local racquet shop. Their customer database runs on an old MS-DOS program called FOXPRO. I found a utility that allows DOS programs to run under windows10 and print to virtual printers. Very smooth.

[dnic]

Way over my head!

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Mar 7, 2021 14:29:48 GMT -6 stratpurist said:

I'm sure Eddie meant UNIX and not Linux. UNIX, a commercial OS, came out around 1970 while Linux, a free and open source OS, came out in 1991 (Apple PCs 1st appeared in 1976, the MAC in 1984). FWIW, I worked for a company that built UNIX computers back in 1982.

I still work with computers. I just finished a project for the local racquet shop. Their customer database runs on an old MS-DOS program called FOXPRO. I found a utility that allows DOS programs to run under windows10 and print to virtual printers. Very smooth.

You are correct. I messed up. LOL! Not the first time won't be the last time. HA! But we had computers for printing back in the 70s. They were not like today's computers. We had punch cards back then for some of the stuff we were doing. It had to go into the computer before you could even do what needed to be done.

 I remember the huge consoles with real tape on them. They had a huge foot print. IBM was the big dog of the hour back in them days.

I have heard of FOXPRO never used it. But it sounds like fun. DOS in windows 10? LOL! Does windows still use DOS? I know XP was still using DOS. But I also heard that 10 is using Linux as a base. I have been out of it for a long while now. But I do try and keep up with some things.

 Did you see that robot they have out that is going around the world? It is made to look like a woman. It has AI and can hold a conversation with you. The robot is 3 years old and is learning all the time. It looks like something out of a SIFI movie. Kind of spooky. She will be the next big thing in computer tech.

 I may not live long enough to see where all this computer stuff will end up. But it sure is interesting. I like reading and seeing story's on how then new tech is helping people to walk, see and use their hands and arms. That to me is were we should be putting all this tech towards. So many good things we all could be doing to help people.

can you imagine a robot surgeon? I know they used what they called a robot in my last surgery. But I'm taking about a full on human looking robot. That would be something. LOL!

 Before I ever got into working on computers I was so afraid of them. But once I was able to figure out how to fix my old (first computer) I went down a rabbit hole of wanting to know more. So I kept at it and once I had gotten my second computer, I used my old one as my test dummy. I would do things to make it crash so I could learn to fix it.

 I wish now that I could have gone to school to learn more. I think I would have given up printing.

 My wife went to school to lean how to use a computer. It was for her work. They paid for her to go. This was back in windows 98. She did good. She did learn how to use windows 98 and it the programs of the time. But they didn't teach her how to fox problems. She got so upset because I was able to show her things that the school didn't teach her. I thought myself and she had to go to school for it. LOL! But her work did pay for it. HA!

 I was always told I was stupid and wold never amount to much for most of my life. So for me to do something like this or build guitars go a long ways with me.

I even had a first grade teacher  tell me that I was stupid, and never would be anything in life and that she could not figure out why God would let someone like be born. I carried that with me for almost my whole life.

This is why I tell people if I can do this that or another thing, so can they!

Sorry I didn't mean to go on so long.

EB

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Mar 7, 2021 14:29:48 GMT -6 stratpurist said:

I'm sure Eddie meant UNIX and not Linux. UNIX, a commercial OS, came out around 1970 while Linux, a free and open source OS, came out in 1991 (Apple PCs 1st appeared in 1976, the MAC in 1984). FWIW, I worked for a company that built UNIX computers back in 1982.

I still work with computers. I just finished a project for the local racquet shop. Their customer database runs on an old MS-DOS program called FOXPRO. I found a utility that allows DOS programs to run under windows10 and print to virtual printers. Very smooth.

Very cool...I remember FOXPRO!

I still have a Windows 95 machine that I use for various projects, and I think that the MS Office on that machine is the easiest, most intuitive version I’ve used.

My opinion only!
John

[antares]

DOS is still lurking underneath Windows 10 despite Microsoft's insistence to the contrary. That much I know because the extraordinarily clever folks at the now defunct company "HyperOS" managed to establish the fact. HyperOS is very very clever software. Amongst its' achievements, it can clone a live running Windows system contrary to what Redmond would have you believe. Government defence departments and software writing companies were on their customer list. Even Microsoft was listed as a customer. Go figure.

I don't know why HyperOS went under, but I suspect that it may have something to do with Windows 10 changing from a product to a service. They just couldn't make a viable business out of keeping abreast of Microsoft's constant releases about every quarter. Who knows. Really clever software though.

So far as I am aware, Linus Torvalds wrote the first Linux kernel and posted it on Usenet for others to add and modify at will. Apparently he was motivated by the crucifyingly crippling UNIX licensing regime that pushed rank and file users out leaving large companies and educational establishments that could afford a licence as the only benefactors. It was reverse engineered UNIX and as such any distinction from UNIX is moot really. Linus Torvalds is in his own way to be lauded as much as Sir Tim Berners-Lee, a breath of fresh air from the grasping, grabbing and clutching wheels of commerce. The internet pretty much runs on LINUX so we all owe Linus and Tim a touch of the forelock in my view. Can you visualise how rich Tim would have been by now if every internet hyperlink clicked had earned him just 1/1,000 of a cent?

Right then- back to Eddie's Les Tele I reckon?

e&oe ...

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It is my understanding that Linux was into business computers before they were into free source. I know that a lot of servers were Linux based and not MS based. Linux at the time and probably still is one of the best systems when it comes to business and servers.  This is were Linux makes it's money. The server software is not free. But when Linux went to open source is where they got huge in everyday computing. In the old days of Linux you had to know how to do what is called computing. You had to know something about programing and so on. Linux has now gotten to be more user friendly. I use Linux a lot. It never crashes nor do I have issues like I do with my Windows 10. Linux is super fast, it makes 10 look like a sail.

 Plus when Linux has an update it won't change your settings like Windows 10 does. I have been using open source Linux for many many years now. One of the things I like the best about it is. You down load what you want. You can change it to what you want. MS comes with a lot of bloat products. You have to go into 10 and turn things off or delete the bloat. Then you have to pay for office and anything else in windows.

 Linux so far is not like that. Now you can buy a Linux OP systems and those come with a lot of support form what I read on line. But they still don't cost ya what MS does.

 Yes in Linux you still need to know how to use control panel to do some cool things. But there is a lot of help on line these days to teach someone how to use Linux. Not like back when I first started.

EB