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Post by antares on Oct 10, 2020 4:39:58 GMT -6
That rabbit hole will look more like a funnel, and take the unanticipated but inevitably eagerly embraced form of ten, twenty or perhaps even more acoustics Dane! I kind of think you'll get hooked and solids will start to look like planks in retrospect. You'll become philosophical about the whole process too, a bit like Melvyn does. You must have got a flavour of that with your 335 build? This brings to mind a comment I made a long time back on how I define a "Luthier".
A massive shout out for Melvyn if'n he's listening. I know he's really struggling with insurmountable health issues ATM.
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Post by dnic on Oct 10, 2020 7:39:10 GMT -6
That rabbit hole will look more like a funnel, and take the unanticipated but inevitably eagerly embraced form of ten, twenty or perhaps even more acoustics Dane! I kind of think you'll get hooked and solids will start to look like planks in retrospect. You'll become philosophical about the whole process too, a bit like Melvyn does. You must have got a flavour of that with your 335 build? This brings to mind a comment I made a long time back on how I define a "Luthier". A massive shout out for Melvyn if'n he's listening. I know he's really struggling with insurmountable health issues ATM. e&oe ...I wasn't aware Melvyn went down the hole. All I really know about him is the electric guitar book and I read somewhere he was really into airplanes. Still very sorry to hear he has serious health issues. I'd also give him a huge shout out, his "build your own electric guitar" was a massive help/guide in my early building experience. His book was the internet of guitar building at that time. Actually it was much more than that because it was accurate in it's information. The 335 is a strange dichotomy. A very acoustic electric guitar but not a very acoustic acoustic guitar. If evolution worked the 335 would have preceded the solid body. Sure Les Paul fiddled with a 3x3 flanked by acoustic wings but then they went right to the solid body. Side bending and kerfed lining however have served me well. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2020 11:40:46 GMT -6
At the time I started my ES335, Dane was building one too. He had started to post his build so I seen no need in posting mine. We built them almost the exact way.
Mine does have a solid center in it. It's not completely hallow. Like a lot of jazz guitars are. Mine took me over a year to build. It did not happen over night. It was something I had never done before. So it took a lot of thought and rethinking on how to do some things. But I pulled it off and now I have this amazing guitar that plays and sounds really, really good! It is all maple. All of the parts came from GFS. This was before I had a falling out with GFS. My picture on the left (avitar) is a picture of my ES335. But in looks only is it a 335.
A lot of people forget that when I first got started in making guitars, I had no experience in wood working. I never even held a router in my hands. And the only table saw experience I had was cutting plywood and 2X4s.
I came from a place that If someone else can so can I. I though myself a lot of things over the years. NO one was going to tell me that I could not do something. Been that way all my life. I have this thing in me that if I see something I can duplicate it.
Back when I built cars and you could not go buy the part you needed, I had to make the part myself. My son and I was working on one of my hot rods. I needed motor mounts. I could not find anything that was going to work for what I needed. So I had to make them. I looked at what I needed, went over a marked it out on some 1/4" steal I had. I did not measure it out. I cut it out and it fit like what I had seen my head. My son could not believe what I had just done.
My mom had told me stories of my grandpa and he was the same way. He could look at something and reproduce it and not make any measurements.
I may not be the brightest bulb in the box, but I can figure things out.
Sorry about the long "Books" I have been doing, but I am board with not a lot to do. Still not doing so well after the surgery. I go back to the doctor this week. So I will see what he has to say.
EB
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Post by dnic on Oct 10, 2020 19:08:07 GMT -6
I wasn't goading you, Eddie, about the book length posts. I just didn't have time to write a long post.
The 335 build was a lot of fun but it did involve inside carving and side bending and other things I don't do often. I was also trying to build as close to 59' spec as possible cause it was commission build and the customer wanted the 59'.
I've also always been very mechanical and can usually figure out how things work by checking it out close or taking it apart.
Too bad you didn't do progress pics on your 335 it would have been fun to build them together.
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Post by antares on Oct 11, 2020 3:31:16 GMT -6
Melvyn has an acoustic guitar version of that book too Dane. It is equally superb and includes a resonator build of all things. I know that he has a third book out as well but has struggled with publishers or distributors and the last I knew he was carrying a boot (trunk) load of them around in his car! I met him through a mutual acquaintance via their shared flying obsession. When I met him he was manning the air traffic control microphone voluntarily at Popham airfield about 45 miles from where I live. I have gently requested a copy of the new book several times via my friend, but he too only sees Melvyn occasionally. I'm here to tell you that Melvyn is far from being a healthy bunny right now and I wish him only well. The world has a dearth of Melvyns ...
Hey Eddie I didn't realise that your avatar was a guitar you'd built. Cool. The astute amongst you will have tumbled that I have an ulterior motive which is to sow the seeds of acoustic building on here and then water them! It's a bit selfish but there you go!
Y'all have probably guessed that we all share this inquisitive nature in how things work. As a child of single years, I found a box in the garage containing some threaded bosses, rubber tubing and a meter of some description. I took it apart to "see what it's like inside" but I couldn't reassemble it, gave up and put it all back in the box. Forty-odd years later my Dad was on oxygen and not long for this world. We were in his club having a beer and all of a sudden out of the blue he said "I found my vacuum gauge by the way". No more words were said- we both knew!
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Post by dnic on Oct 11, 2020 19:29:29 GMT -6
I used to haul old TVs and other electronic stuff folks would leave on the curb for the trash or others to take home. I'm very lucky to be alive cause I had no idea Capacitors retained a full charge even after a TV is unplugged. I'd just be poking around inside these things to see if could figure anything out. Of course with electronics you can't see moving parts so it really isn't mechanical. I got a toaster from a neighbor lady once that wasn't working and I told her I could fix it. When I took it apart all the little wire heating elements just blew up in the air. There was no way that mess was going back together. I was horrified! Never went back to that ladies house.
I've got to get that acoustic book by Melvyn. It will be amazing. I did a quick check online and the only ones I found were used I think. But they were priced in the 400s $ range. That's crazy I don't think I was looking at the right thing. I might have to rent your copy Steve.
Steve, I know you are into acoustics because of your comments on my YT channel but I'm aghast to find out of your subterfuge here on an electric kit building site. We will have to see if admin decides on any disciplinary action. John...?
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Post by antares on Oct 12, 2020 5:04:49 GMT -6
Mea culpa my friend!
I have a capacitor stored charge to tell with a Vox AC30. Enough said!
I'll look out for a copy of Melvyn's acoustic book for you over here Dane.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2020 11:34:40 GMT -6
Well, I was going to post my 335 pictures of the build. But as I was looking for them I remembered that I had a bad computer crash at the time I was making the guitar. I not only lost the pictures on the build but I lost a lot of others as well. I only have a few of the build when it was almost done.
I did say something about my computer crashing at that time. Yes I know I should have backed up my computer. But tell me how many of us do that? I do now have all of my pictures on two external hard drives. LOL!
When I closed down my photo bucket account I lost even more on there. I thought I had downloaded the all from there. But I found out later I only got part of them. Oh well...
The lesson in this... Back up stuff that is on my computer.
EB
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