the new Les Paul! 2016

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Here is the new Les Paul Standard. Some pretty cool stuff. To expensive for me but still cool!

EB

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Thanks Eddie

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Thanks, Eddie.

A couple of notes. (1) The PC boards add a high level of complexity and are difficult to troubleshoot. They are impossible to repair and you have to replace a bad pot or switch with Gibson-provided parts. It has been my experience that if a pot goes bad, you have to replace the board, not just the bad pot. (2) The G Tune is pretty cool, but I can't count the number of those I've taken off new Les Pauls and replaced with Grovers or Klusons. (3) In my opinion, the best tone control on a Les Paul is the volume knob and switch....again, more complexity.

The neck joint and weight relief are good features. The titanium nut is also a huge improvement over the brass version. Zero frets were common back in the 50s on Gretsch guitars. That pickguard is pretty cool, too.

Thanks again,
John

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I don't "get" why they have to achieve weight relief. Sure they are heavier than Leos, but they are still lightweight compared to basses and I never hear bass players complaining.
Surely a Lester should be maple on solid hog?
I am writing this thinking of EB's wonderful chambered guitar, but that had no claim to be a Lester and was a thing of beauty in its own right.
It seems to me that Gibson are damned whatever they try to do these days and I feel for them on that score, but judging them by the awful ex-factory set up of my 2007 Zebrawood Firebird, they have to carry some responsibility for their current disposition.
I wonder how many of these guitars will be re-wired and as John says- have those dreadful auto tuners replaced?
I did like the improved access at the rear neck joint though. Perhaps someone was reading Eddie's build thread...

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Aug 26, 2016 11:31:31 GMT -6 antares said:

I don't "get" why they have to achieve weight relief. Sure they are heavier than Leos, but they are still lightweight compared to basses and I never hear bass players complaining.
Surely a Lester should be maple on solid hog?
I am writing this thinking of EB's wonderful chambered guitar, but that had no claim to be a Lester and was a thing of beauty in its own right.
It seems to me that Gibson are d**ned whatever they try to do these days and I feel for them on that score, but judging them by the awful ex-factory set up of my 2007 Zebrawood Firebird, they have to carry some responsibility for their current disposition.
I wonder how many of these guitars will be re-wired and as John says- have those dreadful auto tuners replaced?
I did like the improved access at the rear neck joint though. Perhaps someone was reading Eddie's build thread...

I couldn't help think the same ting on the heal. HA! I wish I had been the only one to of thought that up! There is one other thing I did to that LP of mine that I thought I was the only one to have done it. But since that build I have found others that are now doing the same thing.
On the neck from about the 10th fret to the 22 fret, (on the high "E" side) on the neck itself I put a counter curve in the neck that fits the palm of my hand. It almost feels like I flattened it. But there is an inward concave in it, and it goes all the way down to the heal.

It makes the guitar supper comfortable to play when up on them frets. I have let a lot of people play that guitar without saying anything of what I did to it. Every person that has played all have told me the same thing, again before I tell them about how I carved it. They say... That guitar is so awesome to play. Can't put my finger on it, but I wish my guitar would feel this good.

So awesome I hit a home run on it. I did not post anything about what I did, because like I said I thought I have thought up something no one had done before. OH well...

On the new Gibson... I like a lot of the ideas that are on it. But like so many of the people that have bought these are changing out the tuners, and the electronics. For me I don't know if I would spend the money on them only to be changing things later on. In the video they did say the tuners are improved... But we all know how new and improved goes. They also say you can get the same guitar without all the upgrades. But I do like the adjustable nut.

But for me, I do like the guitar and all that Gibson has done to it. Now if they could make it reliable, that would be a good thing!

But you can't blame Gibson in trying to come up with new stuff. Looks like the newer generation and maybe some of of old timers, have gotten tired of the same old stuff. (that's the old timers) The new kids on the block are so into technology and having so many choices when it comes to technology. That I hope Gibson is trying to reach the younger people by doing things like this. But on the other hand, the people that can afford guitars like the one in the video are well off people (richer than me) LOL! Most of them people are older people, not younger, unless they are famous working people that are making lot and lots of money in music.

But I guess that's is why people have credit cards... HA!
So did Gibson hit a home run on this guitar? Guess it would be up to the people that buy them to say so...EB

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I'm glad to see Gibson finally do something about that awful neck heal. I'd really like to see them address the peg head flaw. Even a scarf joint would be stronger then the one piece config they've used for ever, but a lam neck would be great with a spoke adjust truss rod at the heel. Leave some meat at the pep head.

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Dane - I'm with you on the headstock. That is the "weakest link" of every non-volute, mahogany-necked Gibson and Epiphone.

John

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I have a 80s LP Custom in the shop right now for a headstock repair!

I'm really down for the neck heel change. My hand feels crippled after playing a set with a Les Paul. Why I'm only seen playing SGs, ha!

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Rock on, Chris...the SG has had a number of heel changes over the years. The Les Paul's is overdue.

John