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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 11:13:23 GMT -6
Well, things have changed. Thinking about buying a small band saw. Sure would make some things easier. As far a the router table, I think I will make one. I looked in my storage and found I have the parts to make a router table. All I need is the plywood. And some screws. I'll have to live without a drill press. But I may have a way around that too.
Why I changed my mind and thinking on the band saw. Yesterday I was trying hard to use my jig saw. NO mater what I tried I could not get it to do what I wanted. I have a jig saw with all the bells and whistle on it. But it still not the good for doing what needs to be done.
I did see a guy the other day on You Tube that cut his whole guitar shape and profiled the neck with a circular saw. WOW! He reminded me of those guys that carve things out with a chain saw. LOL!
He also used some wood rasps to do what he needed. I was tempted to use my circular saw for some of the stuff. But I think the band saw is the way to go. LOL!
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Post by dnic on Oct 31, 2020 13:42:44 GMT -6
Only you know if it’s the right thing for you brother.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 16:25:07 GMT -6
Only you know if it’s the right thing for you brother. Yep! A big part is my body and safety. Some things I see people do with power tools are scary! I learned the hard was to use push tools to put the wood through a router table, table saw, and so on. I cringe every time when I see someone feed wood through a router table and their hand a fingers are over the router bit.
So yesterday I was trying to cut some stuff using my jig saw. I don't really have anywhere to work from. So I was using a crate to hold the item down. Between fighting to hold it down and trying to see where to cut, almost turned into disaster. So I put everything I was doing away. So, that is the biggest reason for the band saw. It is a lot safer than doing what I was doing. LOL!
At least the band saw has a table for me to work from.
I think I talked my wife in letting me take one of our side tables in the living room and making it into a router table. LOL! More to come on that.
EB
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Post by antares on Oct 31, 2020 17:58:55 GMT -6
What a gal Eddie!
Sure- a push stick is mandatory but it's no guarantee against unexpected slip ups. Thirty years ago I worked alongside an Asian monosaw operator. He used to do double shifts all the time- he was money focused and permanently exhausted. In adition to a massive toothless grin, he had about two fingers on one hand and one and a half on the other. He didn't seem to care.
I've every confidence in your abilities Eddie, but would still counsel taking extra care, especially when "making do". I'm as fired up as the next guy over this build.
e&oe ...
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Post by dnic on Nov 1, 2020 8:43:04 GMT -6
Last month I cut myself with a razor knife just above the thumb knuckle, 5 stitches worth! Then last Saturday I shot a 2 1/2" finish nail through my left hand index finger while working my side job.
I'll not be offering any safety tips. I could add pics if anyone interested.
Great story Steve, toothless almost fingerless monosaw guy. Almost nothing left to loose.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2020 9:30:46 GMT -6
I'll never fore get the time I ran my two fingers on my left hand through the router on my router table. Not fun. I do have most of the feeling back in them now. But it took a really long time to get the feeling back.
I did get some things ordered for this build the other day. As it stands right now I should be getting stuff on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.
I wound up getting SS frets. For one I could not find the other kind I like to use, without buying a big lot of them. The SS frets will be the first time I use them on one of my builds. I thought what the heck. I went ahead and ordered a rosewood fret board. It is coming flat and had to have the fret slots cut. But it was cheap. I also ordered the bridge for it and the back Ferrules for string through.
I am probably going to buy the small band saw this week. Going to go look at it again. At least it will be new. I can't but anything that is big, because I live up stares and have no one to help me get it up to my condo. LOL! This small one I am looking at comes in just over 40 pounds. My wife and I can handle that. HA!
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Post by antares on Nov 1, 2020 10:14:01 GMT -6
I know it's not related to Eddie's build but I just had to relate that once I put a 3.3mm H.S.S. twist drill clean through my LH index finger. I had picked up a scrap piece of 3/8" extruded aluminium capping and was putting in some slave "Pop" rivet holes. Unfortunately there was already a hole in the opposite leg of one of my randomly chosen hole positions, and after pressing down fairly hard with the DeSoutter angle drill to drill the new hole, it went straight through the opposite existing hole and on clean through my finger. I was lucky though- when I pulled it back to remove it, I had the capping leg to pull against. I once saw someone drill through his finger with an identical DeSoutter "windy" and due to the weight of the drill and the pressure from the airline mass, he was left standing there holding the drill with the other hand and the other hand's finger trapped. If you touch the go button even for a fraction of a second, the spiral swarf ejection flutes rip through your finger up to the windy's collet! My boss walked over and cool as a cucumber and manually unscrewed the drill bit from this guy's finger. I was spared that ordeal. Hey Eddie- sorry again Bro' but this brought back vivid unpleasant memories.
This talk of air tools reminds me of seeing a "Python" file handle floating in the jet stream of an open airline but ...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2020 14:25:29 GMT -6
I know it's not related to Eddie's build but I just had to relate that once I put a 3.3mm H.S.S. twist drill clean through my LH index finger. I had picked up a scrap piece of 3/8" extruded aluminium capping and was putting in some slave "Pop" rivet holes. Unfortunately there was already a hole in the opposite leg of one of my randomly chosen hole positions, and after pressing down fairly hard with the DeSoutter angle drill to drill the new hole, it went straight through the opposite existing hole and on clean through my finger. I was lucky though- when I pulled it back to remove it, I had the capping leg to pull against. I once saw someone drill through his finger with an identical DeSoutter "windy" and due to the weight of the drill and the pressure from the airline mass, he was left standing there holding the drill with the other hand and the other hand's finger trapped. If you touch the go button even for a fraction of a second, the spiral swarf ejection flutes rip through your finger up to the windy's collet! My boss walked over and cool as a cucumber and manually unscrewed the drill bit from this guy's finger. I was spared that ordeal. Hey Eddie- sorry again Bro' but this brought back vivid unpleasant memories. This talk of air tools reminds me of seeing a "Python" file handle floating in the jet stream of an open airline but ... e&oe ...battle wounds... LOL You reminded me of a time when I was running a printing press, and like a dummy I reached in to adjust something on the press while running at full speed and my hand got sucked into the impression roller. (Big stainless steal roller) I was fast enough to hit the brake on the press before it tore my hand off. Lucky, the only thing that did happen It tore off the end of my middle finger. The finger nail was all that was holding on to it. I was rushed to the ER and I made the doctor put it back on. He wanted to take it the rest of the way off. I told him no way, put it back on. Make a real long story short. I still have my finger. My had was bruised but nothing broken. Took a long while before I was able to use my hand again. It took almost a year before I could grip anything with my right hand. My finger was so sensitive to cold for the longest time. I even had some blue ink in there that the doctor could not get out. So I had the blue Tat for the longest time. It gone now.
OK enough about war stories! LOL Back to the build...
EB
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 16:49:31 GMT -6
So, I went on FB market place and someone was giving away two tables. So my wife and I went and got them. What a deal! One of the tables will be good to turn in to my router table. The other one will be my work bench.
The one I'll use as work bench is super heavy. I didn't know how the heck we were going to get up stares. But one of our neighbors was home so he helped us get up stares. So, this weekend we will be arranging the patio into my work space. I'll be taking some pictures of how it will look. I am excited to have a work space again.
My brother has this small drill press he let me barrow... Hum... I wonder how long I'll have it before he forgets he let me barrow it? LOL!
In a day or two I will start on the router project. Not going to go hog wild on it. It's going to be simple. Should do everything I need it to do.
Well, I hope everyone is doing fine.
EB
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Post by dnic on Nov 3, 2020 19:00:28 GMT -6
Sounds like you are making progress Eddie. I loaned a buddy of mine my 10" wet saw for tile. About three years later I asked him if he wanted to buy it. He bought it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2020 11:27:00 GMT -6
Sounds like you are making progress Eddie. I loaned a buddy of mine my 10" wet saw for tile. About three years later I asked him if he wanted to buy it. He bought it. Been there and done that a few times. LOL! My thing is if I barrow something and it gets broke or it stops working, I feel obligated to replace it with even something better than I borrowed. That is the way I am. But on the same hand I hate it I lone someone barrows something and I get back broken or not working and I am stuck fixing it or getting a new one at my cost. So I am pretty picky if a loan out tools of any kind. I have some things to do for the wife today. Don't know if I'll get to making my router table today or not. But I have to keep the wife happy!
EB
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2020 13:49:07 GMT -6
Well, OK,
This past week I did get some of my orders in. Today I did go out and buy me that small 9" table band saw. It should work out for what I want it for. It won't cut as fast as the bigger ones I have owned.
This is the new band saw. I just took it out of the box and did a set up on it. I have not tried to cut anything yet.
I also bought an extra blade for it. The blade is for a fine cut. I also got some new eye goggles.
This is the small drill press I borrowed from my brother. If he should ask... You never seen it! LOL
Here are few more tools and my order. As you can see I got a new rosewood fret board. I got it really cheap with free shipping. And it a really nice piece. The SS frets are already radiused at 12" I thought they were supposed to come in straight. Also got the Ferrules in for the string through. Been having problems in getting the bridge. Super slow on mailing it to me.
Almost ready to get started again on the build. I still have to make my router table. That shouldn't take to long to do. Supposed to have some people over this weekend to help me move some stuff around so that I can make me a small work shop out on the patio.
If the people don't show up, I'll still be doing things to get the project back on line.
EB
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Post by dnic on Nov 6, 2020 21:01:44 GMT -6
Cool Eddie, glad to see you getting some things together.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2020 10:51:02 GMT -6
Cool Eddie, glad to see you getting some things together. Thanks!
I know the stuff I am getting is not top of the line stuff like I once had. But, I also don't see myself building to many guitars from scratch. I am going to be doing some other wood projects around the house, so the tools will come in handy for that.
Today, I'll be doing some test runs of the band saw. I'll be making sure that things are lined up the way it should be. Still looking for someone to come by and help me move some stuff. I'll see how long that will take.
If the band saw checks out OK today, I may start to do some cutting on the neck. I would like to get the peg head angle cut, and get the truss rod channel routed in. I'll have to see hot the day goes.
EB
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2020 16:45:33 GMT -6
Used my new band saw today. It worked out great! I was so surprised at how well it worked out! I paid $150 for at Harbor Freight. I am well pleased with it. I did buy an extra blade for it. But I may not use it. The one it came with is working out great.
Here is the start of the ruff cut using the band saw.
I like to do these cuts when cutting the horn part of the body. It make it easier for the blade of the band saw to make the cuts.
Here is the body all ruff cut out. I don't know where I got the dirt spots from. Other than I must have had what ever it is on my fingers. I may have gotten it from when I was looking for an extension cord.
I did get the peg head angle cut today. I used the drill press with a sanding drum on it, my hand sander, and a file to get it nice and flat.
The band saw did a really good job cutting it. The thickness was spot on, on both sides.
Well that is it for me today. I am going to try and get the truss rod channel done sometime tomorrow. I would like to the new fret board dialed in sometime tomorrow as well.
I would like to make a template for the body. But I might forgo it. I'll have to think on it tonight.
Here is one of many little drum sanders I have. I had forgotten I still had these. This with my Drill Press I had in my shop. So glad I found them the other day. They will help in getting the body and neck looking good.
EB
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