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Post by hoz on Jan 2, 2015 20:52:32 GMT -6
Thanks everyone, for the kind responses!
P90 set: Was the stewmac p90 kits with the plastic bobbins. Alnico 5 in the neck, 2 in the bridge. They came out to 8.10k each. I was pleased with the output of these. Not happy with the covers or baseplates though. I'm trying something different on the next p90 set.
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Post by dnic on Jan 3, 2015 12:01:07 GMT -6
I still need to wind some pick ups but with John out there it seems kinda silly. Maybe if I had more rewind type of repairs coming into the shop.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2015 15:00:41 GMT -6
I have looked hard at learning how to wind pickups. By the time I would buy or make a winder. Waste who knows how much wire learning how to wind. I find it it's just easier to buy them or have them made. For me John did a killer job on the humbuckers he made me. So I have chosen to take the easy way. LOL! EB
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Post by hoz on Jan 4, 2015 19:09:39 GMT -6
This may sound weird, but I would recommend not getting into winding because it is an expense like Eddie said. After you buy or build a winder, wire, pickup kit or parts, and start tinkering with winding with varied results, you could have bought 4 or 5 great sounding pickups off John! He's been at it for quite awhile and knows how to get the results. I want a set of his pickups for a future build.
When I started this quest back then: there was a Jason Lollar book, and Guitarattack.com. There was some other book I never got, with a spider on the cover, haha!
Today: There are at least 4 books, including the 1 with the spider on the cover. I think there are more internet support for it too. Between guitar attack, youtube, stew mac , and mojo, you can school yourself.
To date, I've only re-wound 2 coils for this one guy who keeps burning up his factory pickups with a soldering iron. You would be right on it not being a great money maker Dane. At least not in my experience. I wind p90 coils for a guy in NY occasionally.
Now for the part of me that would recommend winding for anyone: It has it's Dr Frankenstein moments! For better or for worse. I have a bag of copper wire that has gone wild or silent! My wife says I may be a control freak, but I know what I want out of a p90. And I enjoy the drive as much as the destination.
-Chris
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Post by dnic on Jan 4, 2015 21:09:50 GMT -6
We had the pup winding discussion a while back, don't recall if it was a thread proper or a rabbit trail. But said much the same thing you just said. Investment cost, buying or making a winder then getting all the related stuff, then needing a place to store it all when not in use. Add to that, I just don't need to get good at anything else. But like I said above in this thread I still haven't done it yet but if the need arises who knows.
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Post by GuitarAttack Forum on Jan 5, 2015 8:07:13 GMT -6
Thanks for the kind words.
A lot has changed since I started winding pickups. Just about everything out there for guitar is made in the Far East and many pickups marked "made in the USA" are also made in the Far East! As far as competing with Duncan, Dimarzio, and Guitar Fetish, forget it. I can't tell you how many people email me saying, Well...I can get a whiz bucker from X website for $20...why are you so expensive?" I don't want to be part of a reverse auction...lowering prices to nothing just to sell a pickup.
I like the repair aspect, as well as making something different. Like I've said many times, I am not interested in making the most authentic PAF clone. Besides...what is the most authentic PAF? 1957? 1959?
If you like to punish yourself, drive yourself crazy, and work strictly for your art, then pickup winding is for you!
John
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 9:54:45 GMT -6
Well said to all... I think it would be cool to do my own winding. But I just can't get my head wrapped around it at this time or any time soon. I know I keep saying this, but my health has took a turn for the worse. The worse it gets the less I'm able to do.Having said that, it just does not make since for me to even try and start anything like winding pickups.
John, after looking on the net (eBay) your prices are not bad at all. For good pickups (and ones done to order) some of the prices can be twice as much if not more. But we all know form building custom guitars we all get the same thing. "Well I can buy a guitar cheaper than that!" I tell them then go do that.
I find in today's world, because of the way things are massed produced, People have forgotten what it takes to make something custom to order. I just told someone the other day. "I can't compete with production guitars" Even making the body's. You can get ready to go body's so cheap, that there is no way I can sell any of my Body's that cheap. In most cases the wood alone cost me more than what some guitars are being sold for. But I also let people know that you have to settle with what you get, when it comes to production stuff.
Custom made is different it is" Custom" made the way you want it to be.
OK I'm done. EB
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Post by GuitarAttack Forum on Jan 5, 2015 10:19:15 GMT -6
Eddie - I concur...custom work is the way to go. And "custom" costs more than "off the rack."
John
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Post by hoz on Jan 5, 2015 22:43:51 GMT -6
If you like to punish yourself, drive yourself crazy, and work strictly for your art, then pickup winding is for you! Yes!!!
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