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Post by GuitarAttack Forum on Jul 7, 2014 18:25:11 GMT -6
We'll hang on to it...lots of learning already. Thanks, Eddie.
John
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 0:33:15 GMT -6
yeah don't know when I'll get back on this. Just going through some ruff times again. Again sorry...
EB
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Post by Deus Machina on Jul 8, 2014 13:30:29 GMT -6
Don't apologize. We might have been looking forward to the build, but things just don't happen if you're not in a position to do them. Taking care of yourself is more important, you might just be able to surprise us later.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 17:28:54 GMT -6
OK Now that some of the drama stopped are here. I was able to do some work on this today. I didn't think I would be able to get back on this at all. So I'll take the time as I get it. I did this stuff last night and some today. I was was in a lot of pane today but, I did a little rested then did a little more. I really think this will be my last build. The Doctors say they can't do anything for me. So enough of that. here are some pictures. Here is the start of the body wings. Here are the wigs drawn out. The template is a copy of my 71 LP custom. The two halve were not thick enough, so I decided to go ahead and chamber the wings and add some more maple. The picture is showing the hog out processes. Pleas take a word form the wise. Hog out any chamber before using a router. It will save the router and the router bits. Here is what it looks like once hogged out. Here are both wings hogged out. I didn't take any pictures of the maple being done, It's the same thing as I did on the wings. I used my thickness planer to get everything to the thickness I wanted. The wing are now just over 2 1/2" thick. That shold give me a little to work with. Here is a shot of the neck. I decided to go ahead and do the neck angle at the wings. So I went ahead a cut the angle of the peg head. No I am not going to scarf the neck. I think with lam neck the peg head will be strong enough, I am not a fan of scarfing a neck. A lot of extra work that I feel one does not have to do. I have done this on a lot of neck and never encountered any problems. Plus scarfing a neck through is a little harder to handle because of it's size. I cut the angle on my bad saw and then cleaned up with my table sander. I do have a fret board I am going to use for this. It's one I made for another neck I was making. But I thought it would go good on this build. It has a 25" scale and is maple with cherry bindings. Next up will be making the truss rod channel, and gluing on the wings. I have not decided if I'm going to cut the wings out first or cut them after. I have always cut them first, and the more I think about it, the more I think I will cut them first. To do them first save a lot of pane in cutting them on the band saw later, after they have been glues on. Now here is something I would like to pass on to anyone... Some of you may be wondering how to cut out the wings or the body of a guitar. I cannot stress enough... DO NOT USE A ROUTER TO TRUE UP THE SIDES!!!! Some of you know about 2 years ago I almost cut my fingers off when using a router on the " Rose" what happens is this. (I don't care how many You Tube videos you see of people using routers to true up the sides of the body.) When routing around the body when you get to the part of the body were you have the ends of thee wood on a crown, more times than not the router will grab the wood and fling it out of control. This is what happened to me. The wood went out of control and the next thing I knew, my fingers had gone through the router.NOT FUN!!! So now I use my sanders and hand sanding to do the sides. I will never again use a router do the sides. If you are smart you will do the same. Don't ever think "It can't happen to me" or I've been a wood worker for years I know what I am doing." I had used a router no a lot of my builds and never had anything happen, but it only take one time. Be really, really, really, careful around all power tools. Never think you have it all figured out. Like I said it only takes one time to mess up your day. I was lucky that I did not lose my fingers and I am able to use them. EB
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Post by dnic on Jul 8, 2014 19:42:53 GMT -6
Looking good, good info
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 20:52:28 GMT -6
OK got some more done today. This is showing how to cut the inside of horns. If you are using a 1/2" blade it will cut easier if you cut slots in the wood first. As you cut it will be easier to turn the wood. this is show you what a dull blade looks like. I change out the blade after I cut the slot on the inside of the horn. Wanted to show the chamber. Here are bothe wings ruff cut. You can see what a new blade looks next to the dull one. But cherry and maple smells really good together. This is the fret board I'm using with this build. Here is what I now use to true up the sides of the body's. Yes it does take some time, but it comes out so much better than a router. I got this sander lase year at a yard sale for 25 dollars. What a great deal. On of my favorite tool in my shop. So here she is all cleaned up. I am likeing the colors on this build. I may not paint it white. I may use some white stain, don't know yet what I'll do. Still a long way to go. Nothing is glued up yet. the sides are just resting one some wood to get a preview of how it is looking. Looks like I can go ahead and do the carve top I was wanting. I'm thinking of doing a tummy cut on the back. Most of my power tools I have gotten from CL or yard sales. The only two tools I got new was my table saw and the thickness sander. they were given to me by family. But most of my tool were not all that much and in some cases I was able to trade. Oh I did buy my router new. I tried to but used ones and they just would not hold up. I bought two old ones that failed to do the job. So I went out and bought me a new 4 years ago. the used ones one lasted a week the other just a sew days. So to me I was better off buying a new one. A joiner is a good tool to have. Again I got mine from CL. I think I gave 30 dollars for it. After I set it up right' it is one of the best tools. I just wish I had a bigger one. So do some looking around I am sure you can find deals too. ((((((((((((((((But once again respect all power tools. Remember they don't know or care if they cutting wood or flesh and bone.)))))))))))))) EB
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Post by Deus Machina on Jul 9, 2014 22:40:09 GMT -6
Okay, that's looking pretty awesome. I think it would look great just oiled or clearcoated. Not sure just how much white stain would change it, but that wouldn't hurt, either.
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Post by dnic on Jul 9, 2014 23:32:14 GMT -6
You got a lot done. And yeah, it might be to pretty to paint.
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Post by Deus Machina on Jul 10, 2014 5:00:35 GMT -6
My vote: don't paint it. Maybe stain it, but something to show off the variations. Or, since that neck looks pretty awesome and the body isn't specifically flamed or anything, tape the neck heel off if you're going to paint it. Get the white, still have the wood 'racing stripe.' Still, it's your game. I'm just admiring the whole thing.
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Post by brianloco on Jul 10, 2014 6:06:31 GMT -6
Looks good
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Post by dnic on Jul 10, 2014 7:06:04 GMT -6
The LP I did had nothing great going on with the maple but when it was carved it still would have looked good with a burst. My client wanted to paint it so it got painted. I would have just done the top and treated the back like Gibson would have with cherry stain. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 10:54:44 GMT -6
that LP you did Dane is what got me started on wanting a white LP. The maple on mine, although you really can't see in the pictures does have some cool figure going on in it. As you know I like to use tung oil. But it has an amber to it and does darken the wood. Even lacquer will darken up the wood. Is there anyway of getting a nice gloss look without the wood getting a darker tone to it?
It will still look good with an amber or darker look to it. I was only thinking of the white stain because I thought it would keep it looking white like you see in the pictures.
But any way the plan is, getting the neck ruff cut in, the wings glued on, then start getting the body top carved. This is what I am shooting for by the weekend. But I do have some other things standing in my way at the moment. So I'll see if I can get that far this week. But if I don't no big deal. I'm not in a big hurry.
I still have a lot I'm thinking on, on this build. I still need to get all the stuff for it. Like tuners, pickups and so on. I wish I could afford to have John make me some humbuckers for it. But we will have to wait to see if can sell some more of my stuff off.
EB
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 18:41:39 GMT -6
Got nothing done on this today. Woke up hurting really bad. So I took the day made two videos for my FB page. Been getting a lot of request to hear my cigar box guitars. So that's what I did.
Don't know how far I'll get on this project tomorrow, because I have a guy that is coming over to jam with me. I have a feeling that will take up my whole day. I haven't gotten to just sit and jam with anyone in a long time.
But Please keep checking, you never know what I'll be doing... Heck I never know what I'll be doing. HA!
EB
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 12:07:30 GMT -6
OK here it is Saturday, still not back on it yet. I wound up jamming all day yesterday. I paid the price for it last night, but wow did I have a good time playing music. The guy I jammed with knew all of the old rock classics and even some cool Gospel songs. We had a blast. I wish we could have had more people over to jam with. But it was so cool just to sit and play music without all the drama that goes on sometimes in a band setting.
So maybe later on today I'll get back on the project.
EB
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Post by GuitarAttack Forum on Jul 12, 2014 12:17:57 GMT -6
I had a gig last night, and it is always great to get out and play.
Glad to see you playing, Eddie.
John
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