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Post by chezvoz on Jan 17, 2010 20:31:21 GMT -6
I'm trying to get my Squier back together. I am fairly new at soldering, but I believe that my soldering was decent - at least enough to get a signal, but I have none. Below is the way I have wired it. In case you aren’t familiar with a ‘51, it is a 2 PU, with a bucker at the bridge and a single at the neck. There is no tone control. Instead, there is a coil tap in the volume pot and a 3 position rotary switch for PU selection. I have modified the original circuit by adding a tone pot, in this case a tonestyler. I have used a wiring diagram for the '51 to check my connections, and except for the tonestyler, I think I have followed it accurately. Are there any obvious errors? Thanks
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Post by cknowles on Jan 17, 2010 21:36:38 GMT -6
Well, ya got me...
Is there a capacitor with your tone pot?
Could you maybe post a picture of the actual controls.
My only suggestion is to use a multimeter and trace the wires through the path from end to end, and at each junction.
Chris
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Post by chezvoz on Jan 17, 2010 22:31:41 GMT -6
The tonestyler doesn't need a cap. Is it a logical conclusion that if there is absolutely no signal in any position from either Pup, that I must have wired something very wrong? Like grounding out something? THe joints on the combo pot/switch are hard to see clearly (looking for something like a loose strand of wire) even with a magnifying glass. This is the best I can do.
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Post by dnic on Jan 18, 2010 0:44:01 GMT -6
Hey chezvoz, with no single at all I think you have a jack problem. Try re-flowing the connections at the jack and the center and ground lugs at the volume pot. I not up on rotary switches but it looks right to me. I going to look them up and double check. The coil tap won't be the cause of no single but you should have a pair of wires going to ground at the pull switch. usually a red and white already soldered together. d
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Post by dnic on Jan 18, 2010 1:32:09 GMT -6
just looked all over for a three way rotary diagram, no luck. Who is the maker or supplier.
d
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Post by dnic on Jan 18, 2010 1:42:21 GMT -6
something else, the tone pot should connect to the hot lug of the volume pot yours is on the center. Unless it's different for that type of tone pot. You could be grounding out through the tone pot. d
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2010 9:26:13 GMT -6
Yes it sounds like a ground problem to me too. Is there a ground going from the bridge? You could have the ground wire reversed at the jack. Plus like what Dane said about the lug. Do you have meter to check things out with?
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Post by chezvoz on Jan 18, 2010 11:40:55 GMT -6
I do have a meter but am not sure how to apply it here. If I take out the tone pot, will that help to verify the rest of the circuit? This is the wiring diagram available from Squier online:
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Post by stratpurist on Jan 18, 2010 12:08:14 GMT -6
I do have a meter but am not sure how to apply it here. If I take out the tone pot, will that help to verify the rest of the circuit?
Using the meter, make sure you don't have a dead short across the output jack. next, make sure you do have continuity from the jack ground to the bridge. next, turn the volume to max and select the single coil and attempt to trace the 'hot' lead through the switches and volume pot to the jack.
patience is key. no signal is MUCH easier than partial or noisy signal problems!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2010 13:23:17 GMT -6
Did you check out the grounds? Are they all connected where they should be? I can't tell by the picture if you have a ground from the bridge hooked up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2010 13:24:54 GMT -6
In your first picture (hand drawn) I don't see a ground wire for the bridge.
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Post by chezvoz on Jan 18, 2010 16:34:30 GMT -6
The bridge is grounded to the push-pull switch housing. Although is looks right to my newbie eye, I suspect a ground problem. I would get some sort of degraded signal with other problems, right?
Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2010 17:26:53 GMT -6
From what I can tell it does look right. I would check all the solder joints again. I know I hate going over and over something but at least for me sometimes I keep missing something. Check to make sure there is no wire or solder touching something and causing it to ground out. Even check the input jack. There have been time for me a single strain of wire can hide on you. Is your cable your using a good one? I been there done that too.
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Post by chezvoz on Jan 18, 2010 22:24:46 GMT -6
I have a meter, but don't really know how to use it here. The info I've come across so far online is not directly applicable.
Any help?
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Post by chezvoz on Jan 18, 2010 23:03:41 GMT -6
I stared at it. I stared at it hard. It knew I meant business and gave me a signal! Both pups.
The whole story tomorrow, after I squeeze all this stuff back inside.
Thanks for your help.
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