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Post by dnic on Jul 5, 2023 5:58:03 GMT -6
And you've just written my story too Dane. でつ e&oe ...Introverts unite! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2023 7:40:25 GMT -6
For me, I have always been a front person. I loved being up front and entertaining people. I have won my share of talent contest and did a lot of things in the entertainment field. The only time I felt like I was in competition with someone was when they made it that way. I did what I did and if people liked me, that was fine with me.
I have gotten to play and back up a lot of big name people in my time. I never thought of myself as great. But I must have had something.
I did play with one band that had two bass players and two drummers. I played at a church that we had more bass payers and drummers than we had guitar players.
Well, I also had a lot of my own bands. As well, played on a lot of others. Even got to be on a couple of albums.
Did a lot of things with music. But I did put myself out there. If I had not, then I would not ever gotten to experience any of the cool things I did.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2023 10:07:34 GMT -6
This past week, been playing this EPI LP custom. It was made in 2006 in Korea. I changed the pickup to the Pro Bucker USA pickups a long while back. It has push-pull pots and the 3 way switch. Yes, I know I have the neck pickup in the so-called "wrong way” When I put the pickups in, I thought I would try it out. At that time, there were a lot of people doing this MOD. I don't hear much of a change in the way the guitar sounds. Sitting here thinking of switching around. But then it will be just like every other LP custom out there. LOL! This white on black guitar is what makes it kind of rare guitar. Most of these guitars have gold hardware. Got the guitar off of eBay a lot of years ago. I love the way the neck feels on this guitar. It fits my hand just right! The action is what I like as well. The guitar sounds amazing.
The pin striping is a decal. I like that much better than the pickguard bing on it. I do have the pickguard, just in case someone would like to put it back to original looking. I rarely buy guitars online. But after talking to the seller about this guitar, and he at that time was a guitar dealer. I decided to buy the guitar are a super low price.
It was cheaper than any kit guitar out there at the time. So for me, I wanted a white LP custom to go along with my Black Gibson LP custom.
It does have an ebony fretboard. Just like the Gibson's do. It is not as heavy as my Gibson LP custom. But still has some heft to it. LOL! I have played this guitar a lot when I was doing a lot of playing outside the house. But it has been in the case for a long while now, not being played.
Felt good to have in my hands once again and hearing sing. Been trying to talk myself in to doing a video on it. I still might. But think I'll play on it some more.
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Post by antares on Jul 13, 2023 15:37:42 GMT -6
Preferring as I do double cuts, I've never really been a Lester's greatest fan, but wow- that sure looks a treat Eddie. Thanks for posting.
Regarding the "mod", I guess this is the so-called Peter Green mod? In addition to flipping one of the pickups, it is necessary to flip the magnet(s) of one of the pickups, but which one is not documented although I'm guessing it's the flipped pickup. I have an article from a UK guitar magazine that relates how it is not out of phase in the normal sense in so far as you don't get that funky bass suck out, but the higher notes get steadily more hollow tones as the pitch raises. Done correctly I believe it's addictive. I saw Greeny's '59 in a side room at The London Guitar Show at Kempton Park horse racing course quite a few years ago now. From recollection, there was only one entry/exit door and security was tight!
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Post by dnic on Jul 13, 2023 18:28:38 GMT -6
I don't think flipping/ rotating the pup does anything tonally Unless you split the pickup. Where the screw coil will remain on. So with the full hummer it's sitting in the same space and creating the same magnetic field. where if rotated and the screw coil is farther from the bridge where there is more string movement it will sound different. We're talking 5/8" difference in location and there is already a big difference in sound just from splitting the coil. So the 5/8" more from the bridge may be hardly noticeable.
And just flipping the pup won't change the polarity. I never can remember this but polarity and phase are different. The magnet flip is polarity and the flipped wires are phase. That may be a question.
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Post by antares on Jul 14, 2023 4:39:27 GMT -6
What you say is directly in line with Eddie's experience Dane. I will note that the so-called Peter Green mod only relates to using the middle position of the three-way toggle switch (it's an "on-on-on" switch) which again backs up Eddie's experience. Where my scant understanding is lacking is whether one or both magnets should be flipped. As I stated, I'm guessing it's the physically "flipped" pickup that has to undergo the magnet gymnastics, and I'm also guessing it's both magnets that are rotated because otherwise the two coils would suffer some odd responses when not in the N+B position on the selector? Really I should back off and leave it to those who know (you know who you are!) and I've already got an idea that you have more hands-on in the field of Gibson wiring than I do Dane?
The physical position of the coils with respect to the scale length as well as each other is not trivial. I have measured the position of a Tele and a Strat with respect to the bridge saddles and there is a small difference. I have long suspected that is the reason for the (for myself) detectable difference between the two bridge pickup sounds, more than the ashtray bridge effect or the Tele base plate might imply. I have tried a Tele bridge pickup base plate on a Strat bridge pickup and it still doesn't cut it like a Tele. I believe it is far more related to the relative geometries than hardware. Again, I'm only theorising but you guys are used to that by now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2023 6:42:05 GMT -6
In a split mode, Because the neck pickup has been flipped, I could adjust the screws to be a little closer to the strings and because the adjusting screws are now more in the middle of the guitar it should give it more of a deeper or hallow sound.
Now that I paid more attention to it, there seems to a better sound in the split mode. Now I think I might adjust the screws some to see how much better or worse I can make sound. LOL! Although, it sounds great.
I can't tell you how many people say to me, “you have the pickup in the wrong way.” I did play an LP once many years ago that had both pickups flipped. In other words, the adjusting screws were in the middle. But it did not have any way of splitting the pickups. Now, it could have been wired up differently. That part of it I'll never know.
But, now thinking on it, the neck pickup in this guitar has been wired up so that the wires on the pickup come off the lower right side. Like it was meant to be installed the way I have it. Could it be the pickup was supposed to be a neck pickup? Hum... or was it wired up wrong at the factory? Now I'll have to pull it to find out. I need to check to see what it is marked as. N or B. Been too long ago since I put this together for me to remember.
I'll look into that today. That will give me something to do. I'll post my findings later on.
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Post by dnic on Jul 14, 2023 9:19:53 GMT -6
Steve, only one magnet is flipped or one pup wired in reverse will cause the P G effect. Because played separately they will sound fine. Combined / middle position creates the out of phase thing. It has to do with canceled frequencies. Much like a humbucker works on its own to cancel hum. Please excuse my lack of knowledge of the technical terms. We'll leave that to the pickup wizard to put us straight on. I did do a video on flipping the magnet on one of the P-90s in my skull guitar. It had the P G effect going on and flipping the magnet fixed the problem. I may have been able to flip the wires and achieve the same result but I'm not positive about that. Also had some moments on the video that I was using the wrong term calling it out of phase.
Eddie, I'm sure every time I install hummers In the standard form one of the wire holes in the base plate ends up on the "wrong" side of the cavity. As in the opposite the hole to the cavity. More clearly said the N and B plates are the same so the wires comes off the same corner of the plate. Also for me if the pups aren't marked I meter them and the hotter one is the bridge.
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Post by antares on Jul 14, 2023 10:07:49 GMT -6
Well I researched this (I should have done that beforehand) and it is clear to me now that there is only one magnet in a humbucker. I was thinking of it in terms of the bridge pickup in my Yamaha Pacifica 904 which is actually two single coils shoulder to shoulder. Perhaps that's why they don't refer to it as a humbucker- the clue is in the name; model "9" refers to high end range (as opposed to say "0"12 or "1"12- entrant level.) "0" means no hummers and "4" means four single coils, hence "904". Having bridged the gap in my knowledge, you can see why I wrote "magnet(s)" with the "S" in parantheses- it allowed me to sit on the fence, and you'll have seen me do that repeatedly. I have written out what was obvious all along to the pickup gurus because when I wrote one or both, I was thinking of both magnets in one of the pickups- not both pickups. In short, I've never been inside a hummer- only P90s and Leo-types. Now we're on the same page Dane, or rather I'm on your page at last!
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Post by GuitarAttack Forum on Jul 14, 2023 11:21:32 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2023 15:56:20 GMT -6
Here you go, this is what I found out on this guitar. I don't know what happened at the start of the video, But something went wonky at the start. But the rest came out pretty good.
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Post by antares on Jul 14, 2023 17:53:38 GMT -6
You need to gig with it Eddie!
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Post by dnic on Jul 14, 2023 22:36:11 GMT -6
Good video Ed. Like those Korean LPs are very nice guitars. I'm guessing since they need a route for the switch wires to the control cavity they just used it for the pup as well. Good pike too!
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Post by dnic on Jul 14, 2023 22:50:03 GMT -6
Good article John. I'm pretty sure I've read it in the past. But my memory can be a little hinky. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2023 6:06:53 GMT -6
You need to gig with it Eddie! でつ e&oe ...I wish I could be. But I have gigged a lot with this guitar in the past. Lot of cool memories playing the guitar all over AZ. |
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