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Post by stratpurist on Feb 12, 2021 13:31:31 GMT -6
I watch a lot of builder vids and saw a lot of fancy paint jobs. For me, transparent or semi finishes are where its at. I want to see some wood grain. Well done Dane.
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Post by antares on Feb 13, 2021 8:35:49 GMT -6
Agree totally. I love sunbursts anyway, but translucent finishes always tick my boxes because that's where the grain's at.
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Post by dnic on Feb 13, 2021 10:10:07 GMT -6
Thanks, StratP.
You all will like a Strat I have coming up. Dark mag stain on an alder body. I'm looking forward to it. And it will be in nitro lacquer a medium I am very comfortable with.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 16:29:42 GMT -6
I like wood grain too. But for me I own a lot of guitars with wood grain showing. Both in natural finish and in burst. Please don't misunderstand me. I like the transparent finishes, and I have a few coming up in some of my future builds. So, sometimes I like a solid color guitar.
But, I do like the green on Dane's guitar. It is out standing.
All of the custom guitars I built for customers have all been natural wood color. Everything from satin to high gloss. All of them look awesome. And most of the guitars I have built for myself are the same way.
So every once in while I like to make one that is not natural or a burst. The build I am doing right now, I want it, white, or a cream color. But it looks like I will be buying some stain in one of the two colors. I cannot find any paint that I want to use on my build in a spray can. I have to use spray cans. I don't own an air compressor or a spray gun, and I would have to find a place so I could spray it. That means I would have to transport the guitar, air compressor, spray gun, the paint and so on. Not going to happen.
So, I have limits as to what I can and cannot do. So, my build will more than likely still have some wood grain showing.
EB
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Post by dnic on Feb 14, 2021 8:45:15 GMT -6
The green guitar was going to be a solid paint color because I didn't like the way the grain looked. But I decided to mess with it a bit and, well, you know.
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Post by dnic on Feb 23, 2021 8:31:43 GMT -6
I lacquered my Tele neck with nitro cellulose rattle cans in my garden shed Eddie. I'd never do it again.
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Steve, what was the problem with rattle can lacquer? Me I don't like their spray tips as much as I do the Color tone Cans from Stew. But I've never had a problem with the Minwax lacquer.
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Post by antares on Feb 23, 2021 11:40:28 GMT -6
At the time, I couldn't find my mask buried somewhere in the shed (it is a very good mask because you cannot even smell solvents through it) so I was hyper ventilating at the top end of the garden and running to the shed to layer a coat. No one should mess with Nitro. As it happened, I turned out a very good job with one can of tinted and one can of clear top coat. I had to do it indoors because I couldn't exclude wind born contaminants.
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Post by dnic on Feb 23, 2021 19:33:05 GMT -6
It's always a struggle keeping the little winged freaks out of the sauce. I was excited a couple of years back cause a gut let me use his auto spray booth. All closed in with big exhaust fans and a huge compressor . Shot the back color on the skull guitar and some kind of flying thing got into it. Can't win...
As I've eluded to in the past I've not always been very careful with mask waring. But one really should protect themselves. There are parts of my brain that I really miss. I am a staunch mask wearer these days and also hearing protection. Very important, all kidding aside.
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Post by antares on Feb 24, 2021 3:08:54 GMT -6
By the way- I was using "rattle can" as a general term rather in the way we use hoover eponymously. From what you've written I seems that I may have been mistaken and it's actually a trade name for a brand of aerosol finishes?
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Post by dnic on Feb 24, 2021 8:30:13 GMT -6
I rarely use spray can paints or sealers on guitar jobs. Lately I use them for peghead faces. But the terms rattle can, spray bomb or spray paint all mean the same thing. Canned spray paint. I typically use a compressor fead gravity feed spray gun.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 17:16:21 GMT -6
Dane, in your video of the Great Guitar build off. You talked some on the 18" band saw. I was looking at one a couple of years a go. It was non working. If I remember it needed a motor and tires and some bearings. So I wound up not getting it. But it too was an old one.
You side the one you have cost around $500 to get it back up and running. I know that these size band saws can get expensive. Even at $500.00 that is still a good deal on a good saw. Is yours 220, or 110, The one I was looking at, at the time was 220 but could be converted. But since the motor was bad Guess it didn't matter.
So, it sounds like you are going to have to do an ad on to your shop if you keep growing. I am pretty much out of room right now. I think I have room for a spindle sander or maybe a thickness sander or thickness planer. But that would be pushing it space wise. Trying to come up with maybe a router sled for truing up wood. If I can make it so I can take apart when not using that would be the way to go for me.
Well, I wanted to say great job on the video/s. Looks like this year GGB is going to be pretty good. People already posting their builds. Some of though I don't think they should be in it. But who I am to say?
EB
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Post by dnic on Mar 5, 2021 19:20:10 GMT -6
Hey Eddie, there's a huge group of guys in the GGBO. There are 3 classes as well, Kit builders, scratch builders and by invitation. The invitation group are people with very large YT channels which shouldn't be interpreted as people that know a lot about guitar building but they draw a crowd and make add revenue. Both kit and scratch builders are all over the map skill wise. Guys saying, this is my first guitar build and my first YT video. I've got 20+ years at this and I don't even expect to be the running just trying to build up the YT channel.
My band saw is a 1956 18" Craftsman. Made by Parks machine. I got it for free but it cost 500 to get it running and accurate. I did some videos on it. It needed tires and blade guides and the lower wheel had to be re-bushed and machined. It needed a lot of clean up and rust removal. But in the end it was worth the work. A new saw this size is minimum 2K. The motor can one wired 120 or 240 and it came to me wired completely wrong. I'm lucky they didn't totally pouch it.
And I really am out of room in my shop. I got a big shaper before the band saw and it's still just in the walkway being pushed around depending on what I need to use. Definitely first world problems.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 12:46:02 GMT -6
here is a rabbit trail for ya!
I was looking at a lot of the 2021 guitar builds going on. I got to thinking about all the guitars I have built over the years. Put that together with all of the builds going on around the world and wow!!! No wonder guitar sales are down.
But here is what I got to wondering... What is going to happen to all of the custom made guitars? There has to be thousands of them. Once my life is over, what will become of my guitars? Will someone get to enjoy them as much as I have? Or will they end up as parts for someones restore guitar? And the wood end up in a fire place somewhere?
I love all of my guitars and I know someday I will not be around to protect them and love on them the way I do. LOL! Yes they are like my kids! I was sitting here tying to see as my eye heals up and got to looking at my hands and seeing the scars I have on them from making guitars. I remembered all the blood, sweat and tears I had put into the so called hobby. I thought of all the people I had made good friends with and some that I had not. But it all adds to the guitar making experience.
I can only hope that not just the guitars I made but my other production guitars will all find someone that will be a good guardian over them. Maybe at least one of them in 50 or so years will be worth a lot of money. LOL!
All I got to say is It's been a ton of fun making them. I have a few more up my sleeve before I check out of this world. At least I hope I do...
EB
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Post by dnic on Mar 20, 2021 16:22:04 GMT -6
Well Ed, we one off no name makers have to resign ourselves and our relations to an eternity of obscurity. Hardly anybody knows who we are now, that probably won't change with our passing. I hoping that my grandkids will at least watch some of my YT videos to remember me by. Even if they don't care about my guitars.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 18:23:37 GMT -6
Well Ed, we one off no name makers have to resign ourselves and our relations to an eternity of obscurity. Hardly anybody knows who we are now, that probably won't change with our passing. I hoping that my grandkids will at least watch some of my YT videos to remember me by. Even if they don't care about my guitars. LOL!
What if in a hundred years from now if they dig up one of our builds/ I wonder what they would say? LOL! I hope they don't bring up the "Tone" word... LOL!
I really wonder what will happen to all the guitars out there over time. Hum... It would be cool if someone had a guitar store that will sell vintage Kustom guitars made by non known people. That is of course for the future. HA!
As long as You Tube and Face book stays around. People will hopefully come across a video or two. I have some old real to real tapes of me playing back in the 60s and early 70s. I even have some really old video on a real and some on a VHS. I wonder if sometime in the future if anyone would be able to view them or listen to them? Hum... They will more then likely end up in a land fill somewhere.
Well, it's just an old mans thoughts. Seems as I age the more I think about stuff like this. I never thought I would like making instruments the way I do. There is something about wood and carving a pile of wood into something that can be played and enjoyed. At least I have that satisfaction.
EB
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