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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 17:13:30 GMT -6
Not giving up Eddie. I have also made more money repairing guitars than I have building new ones. I just like to keep busy so I can more or less hobby build and get a fair price for things I'll be happy. My guitar hobby always did pay for it self counting tools and other things. This past 2 years though I have wound up spending my hobby money on other things... But at lest that money kept my wife and I from not paying on bills and some un for seen things that had came about.
Now I am starting over as far as trying to get guitars to work on. I'll never get to build any from scratch again. But I can rebuild and turn them into "Kustoms!" LOL!
Keep up the good work Dane!
EB
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Post by antares on Jun 1, 2020 2:12:33 GMT -6
Never say never Eddie. I've a feeling you could still scratch build if you really wanted to? There's always a way to achieve an end even if it's far from ideal.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 8:38:19 GMT -6
Never say never Eddie. I've a feeling you could still scratch build if you really wanted to? There's always a way to achieve an end even if it's far from ideal. e&oe ...I know I could, but at this point in time living in the a condo It would be hard to build one. EB
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Post by antares on Jun 1, 2020 10:41:23 GMT -6
Same here, although we are at least owner-occupiers. I have no workshop facilities so I'm ever grateful to SWMBO for tolerating my passing fixations! She says that she's just happy I'm not down the pub all the time drinking ...
At the moment I'm building a 1.5M diameter magnetic loop antenna from a vacuum variable capacitor and 7/8" diameter "Heliax" coaxial cable. Some really serious RF voltages there! "What I'm saying is "where there's a will, there's a way" and you have no shortage of determination Eddie.
Dane you never push your business on YouTube and I know most others do. Even Rick Beato only suggests that it might be good to help support his channel by buying merch or The Beato Book, but only at the very end when folks can click out if they want to. You could capitalise on your videos right at the end too and no one would point any fingers.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 15:30:22 GMT -6
I think if I was to have a You Tube page, I would have to make things to sell. LOL! Like T-shirts, Guitar picks, even make up some of the guitar shaped trays. LOL! I mean why not? A lot of people have things they sell to keep them afloat.
When I had my shop I was making wooden spacers to put under carburetors. Yes people still use them on hot rods... HA! But I made some good side money making them for this Hot rod shop In AZ. They use them spacers to help keep the heat from getting the Carb.
I also use to make wooden dash inserts for the same Hot Rod shop. He use to keep me pretty busy.
I also got into making tables and a lot of other things. But that is a little off subject.
But all of this helped me with my hobby of guitar building.Plus make other things helped me to learn other things.
EB
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Post by dnic on Jun 3, 2020 7:43:45 GMT -6
"Dane you never push your business on YouTube and I know most others do. Even Rick Beato only suggests that it might be good to help support his channel by buying merch or The Beato Book, but only at the very end when folks can click out if they want to. You could capitalise on your videos right at the end too and no one would point any fingers."
Steve, I like the sentiment but I don't think that very many people get to the end of the videos. My main reason for not pushing or saying prices Is I've never been clear on whats allowed on YT. I see others on YT getting bogged down with mail delivery of guitar repair work. I thought once I got my name out there I might get some share or the business. I've have had a few inquires about pricing but the shipping costs seem to put the kabash on the deal. I have heard Jerry say he was charging 60$ an hour and then he went to 100$. I really don't think his work is all that clean and he whines the whole time about how busy he is and on and on. I had to stop watching. enough of that.
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Post by dnic on Jun 3, 2020 7:50:57 GMT -6
I've thought about merch Eddie. But you need up front money for that sort of thing (there are probably ways around that in this day and age). As you know from my videos I've been investing pretty heavily in tools and camera gear. plus I don't even have 1000 subs yet. Got have traffic to sell stuff. I know this all sounds like excuses but all I really want to sell are guitars. And to be honest I've been selling myself or my skill set my entire life and I'm kind of tired.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 12:31:46 GMT -6
And to be honest I've been selling myself or my skill set my entire life and I'm kind of tired. I understand that. I have had a few business in my life. The biggest one I had was my print shop. Seems like I have done that too all of my life. Now at 66 years old I too am tired of a lot of things other than business stuff.
It takes a long time to get stuff rolling in the guitar world. But once it gets going it seems to take off. I know it did for me.
There were times I had to hire someone to help me out. One summer I was so busy with guitar repairs I had to start turning some of them away, mostly because they didn't want to wait weeks to get the guitar back.
Now, I like being busy, but, it started to feel like a job. Putting up with dead lines and peoples attitudes and so on. So once winter set in that year, I had to take a hard look at what I was wanting. So, I decided to keep it as hobby, and started telling people that if they wanted me to work on their guitars, that It's under my terms, and I will work on them when I felt like it working on them. I was in the beginning of my health problems. There were days (like now) I don't feel good at all.
Most people were so understanding. In fact I was so surprised how understanding they were. It did make feel good to know that people thought that highly of me and wanted me to work on their guitars. I did have some great customers. But it took time to get them.
When I left AZ I did have some of my customers get upset that I was leaving. It was a sad, to not only to leave AZ but it was even a worse day when I knew I had to sell my shop.
I have been thinking of looking here for some guitar work. But I'm not sure if I want to get that involved with it anymore. For one I really don't have a place to where I can do it on a scale I was doing it at in AZ. So I would have to more selective in what I can work on.
I really need to go through my guitars and reset some of them up, and I have like 2 that really could use some new frets. Now that I have new tools to do that I might have to start. LOL!
One thing I didn't get into was pickup and delivery. I see where some techs are doing that. I guess it would have been OK on occasion but not all the time.
So Dane, you have to decide on what is best for you and go with it. There are a lot of guitars out there and people who play them that have no idea of how to work on them. Keep on doing what you doing. You will get there.
EB
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Post by dnic on Jun 11, 2020 13:06:09 GMT -6
I like to keep busy but I work full time plus some so it’s better right now not to be overwhelmed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2021 7:52:50 GMT -6
here is something I seen today. look at the video and see what you think.
EB
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Post by antares on Dec 31, 2021 11:56:33 GMT -6
My Dad taught me his own self-devised pricing / estimating method for sheet metal ductwork supply and install about 40 years ago. It was a deal more complex version than the one touted on that video, but essentially the same. I guess those presenters would say he over-thought things, but using his system, he knew exactly what his margins were and where he could budge in negotiations. I never did quite manage to follow it through without making an error somewhere which he'd inevitably seize upon!
I tend to think that what they were evangelising was pretty much common sense at the end of the day, but then again I was never destined to follow in Pa's shoes. I didn't have that "push" or self motivation which I attribute to those who were alive as youngsters during WW II? Generations nowadays seem to be raised thinking that they can do no wrong and it manifests as what I think of as an "entitled" demographic. I have a friend in Mississippi who blames it all (and a lot besides!) upon a certain famous howto book (Doctor Spock was it?) written for new families denied traditional parental advice and support, because post war families were on the move, often far away from their parents who had even survived that conflict. Well worth a look and thought provoking anyway Eddie.
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Post by GuitarAttack Forum on Jan 1, 2022 8:00:48 GMT -6
Thanks for that video, Eddie. Those young people have a good presence and, like Steve said, are providing some knowledge our parents and grandparents knew very well!
John
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