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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 10:59:31 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 11:13:02 GMT -6
here is one made from aluminum and chromed!
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Post by dnic on Oct 16, 2019 21:43:02 GMT -6
Good video I will go back and watch them all.
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Post by antares on Oct 17, 2019 6:50:28 GMT -6
I enjoyed watching the steel one come together. Maybe that's because it's closer to my comfort zone than wood? Good videos. Not sure about the chrome on aluminium approach though. Still, I wouldn't cavil with the Rickenbacher Frying Pan, so I need to open my mind. I think I prefer wood when all's said and done.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2019 9:21:06 GMT -6
here is a steal top Tele.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2019 9:26:06 GMT -6
I posted these just to show that there are guitars out there using steal or metals with the pickups being mounted to the metals. So do the metals effect the pickups? HUm...
EB
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Post by antares on Oct 17, 2019 10:01:14 GMT -6
In addition to its steel mount, the Tele pickup also has a metal plate beneath the pole pieces. Bearing in mind that Leo was notorious for avoiding expense wherever possible (the Nocaster decal being an extreme example) I'm guessing he thought it necessary? This again is supposed to influence the sound (presumably a positive influence whatever that may be.) I read once that they need to be steel as opposed to copper or brass and again one would conclude this is due to eddy currents?
I think Angela sell similar plates intended to augment the sound of Strats in some way or another? I have no idea whether that's the case because their website blocked me and they declined even to answer to tell me why. Nice guys? It took me years to find another outlet for nickel plated Strat jack socket escutcheons.
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Post by GuitarAttack Forum on Oct 23, 2019 11:53:36 GMT -6
I thought we were talking about ferrous metal pickguards (scratchplates)?
The Telecaster is a different animal when it comes to steel and pickups. Remember that up until the time the Tele (Broadcaster) was launched Fender primarily made lap steels. That plate on the Teles is very close in construction to the lap steel plates of that time. It does give a unique sound, and even the bridge pickup has a metal plate on the bottom! Concerning ash trays (covers), only the reissues have them now. The standard Tele line does not come with them...and they were steel. Also remember the original Teles had Bakelite pickguards...no metal around the neck pickup.
I'm always up for experimentation when it comes to pickups and their installation. Let us know if you make a pickguard out of something different, and please don't let me dissuade you! Sometimes the coolest thing is something we do by accident.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 12:13:12 GMT -6
All I was trying to show was that metal has been used over and over again. From pickguards to all out guitars. I have used metals in making pickguards and never had an issue with the a single coil or humbucker or P90 and so on.
Sometimes I think people over think things.
Someone on here once told me that "Guitars are not rocket since" But so many make it that way.
If anyone really wants to get confused join a site that talks about guitar wiring... LOL they really get into over thinking!
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Post by antares on Oct 24, 2019 0:59:00 GMT -6
What is the difference between a ferrous metal pick guard and a ferrous metal bridge pickup mounting plate / bridge assembly? By extension- how different would the proximity of a ferrous metal ashtray be from the supposed effect of a ferrous metal bridge plate? Any suspected altered magnetic field influence does not need to rely upon conductivity.
The OP was about the deployment of ferrous metal in this application, and the example of the Telecaster (which I threw into the soup) was intended to make folks take a breath and look at the whole issue from a more detached perspective.
I'm with the consensus in trying a "suck it and see" approach because that's a good way to move forward, but here's the thing: whatever you decide to experiment with, first make a recording under a reasonably acoustically controlled space and note all amp and guitar settings. Secondly, make the proposed change, *but reuse the old strings*- it's not impossible. Finally, make a second recording afterwards under as close a duplicated set of circumstances as before, and then review the fruits of your labours.
I replaced the miserable excuse for a gold plated pressed steel tailpiece on my (expensive) mandolin and replaced it with a nice American "Allen" cast bronze one at significant expense. For once in my life I practised what I'm preaching here. It looked much much nicer and (importantly!) made me feel better too, but once the fat lady started to yodel, it sounded exactly the same. Apples and oranges because we're talking about a ferrous scratchplate, but my point is the only way to hold a valid opinion on any such changes is to do a "before and after". Anything else holds no merit. It's easy to compare with a pick or slide change, but even changing strings merits such an approach to make a valid appraisal.
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Post by antares on Oct 24, 2019 2:23:43 GMT -6
BTW John, by making reference to Nacho's "Blackguard" weighty tome in conjunction with a micrometer, I was able to establish that based on pole piece diameters, the mid 1950s pickup in my Esquire "tribute" is in fact from a 1950s lap steel.
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